Say something controversial (boxing related)

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by mrtony80, Oct 30, 2010.


  1. TheDon

    TheDon KO Artist Full Member

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    This is such bull****. Im not biased to the old timers, but seriously??

    Because Tua lost to Ike fair and square he beats Frazier??

    Here's something thats not controversial: You do not belong on boxing forums.
     
  2. The-Beast

    The-Beast Free Boo Radley Full Member

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    Emmanuel Steward cost Jermain Taylor the middleweight championship.
     
  3. rocky538

    rocky538 Lineal Champion Full Member

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    Calzaghe is the GOAT.
     
  4. TheDon

    TheDon KO Artist Full Member

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    Hagler is overrated.

    Its not like he competed in a great MW era, but he seems to be many peoples pick for greatest MW ever.
     
  5. vanargian_guard

    vanargian_guard Mini-Mandingo Full Member

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    :patsch
     
  6. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Actually, I would say that most people pick Monzon at the top middleweight of all-time, and the same could be said for him. Both men made a habit of fighting guys moving up as signature wins. It's the same with Hopkins. That doesn't make any of those guys over-rated.

    Hagler still has a great period of dominance at middleweight over the course of 6 years, making 12 defences and beating the likes of Antuofermo, Hamsho, Sibson, Hearns, unbeaten Mugabi, 160lbs version of Duran who still beat Barkley at the weight. And he's a nightmare for anyone at middleweight head-to-head courtesy of power, durability and ability to box or brawl with technical skill.
     
  7. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    There IS no p4p ATG. It's all subjective, and matter of opinion. Most say SRR because he is the safe pick...the easy pick, albeit a very good one. So...if pressed, I'd have to go with him. In terms of skills, he was ahead of his time, but nowadays, he'd just another somewhat elite level fighter with a few loses on his record. He wouldn't be unstoppable, as most seem to think.
     
  8. haglerwon

    haglerwon Official GTMSBT Marquez Full Member

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    Both Pac and Floyd have been disappointments north of 140.
     
  9. ClaudeRains

    ClaudeRains Member Full Member

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    Alexander beat kotelnik fair and square.
     
  10. vanargian_guard

    vanargian_guard Mini-Mandingo Full Member

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    How Pac has been dissapointing at 147 is beyond me.
     
  11. vanargian_guard

    vanargian_guard Mini-Mandingo Full Member

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    Oh my...so HW champion of the world during the golden era of HW boxing, a guy who sucessfully defended against Ali wouldn't last against a guy who never won a major title in a weak HW era? I hate the old timer bias but this is a joke.
     
  12. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Vlad was drugged. Check out all the proof, not to mention the rematch mismatch!
     
  13. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    Love this answer. I thought I was the only one who thought like this as well.
     
  14. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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  15. KERRIGAN

    KERRIGAN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As much as I liked Hagler, I think that he showed himself NOT to be the GOAT at Middleweight when he wasn't able to stop a blown up lightweight in Duran, over the 15 rounds.

    I also believe that Mosley was shot when he fought Floyd and that in his fight against Margo, he wasn't quite shot, but that was 18 months earlier, Margo's mind was not there because of the wraps issue and it was the mythical moment of "every great old fighter has one great performance left in him".