Schaefer/Arum - More arguing over Pacquiao-Mayweather

Well, did you enjoy watching 'Team Mayweather' trying to make the general public believe Pac was on roids? Which did more damage to boxing? They thought they had 'the trump card' and Arum proved them wrong and now people are turning on the Mayweathers. Look at the whole picture. In the end the general public sees Manny agreeing to an unprecedented level of drug testing, far and above what is required and Mayweather said NO! The Mayweathers had public sentiment for a while and they have now come out looking like the bad guys in the eyes of the general public, in my opinion anyhow. Floyd wanted to cultivate that 'bad ass' image and Arum used it against him.

 

... because Floyd didn't went along with it.

 

I'd have to see that one in writing. Everything in negotiations is a proposal until all sides agree. The mediator just reiterated his job description from what I read.

 

Imagine, an LA based newspaper supporting the LA based boxing promotions company Golden Boy Promotions, owned by an LA born and bred former champion boxer...

Why ever might they have a slight bias towards Schaefer?

Irrespective, if Arum is being so pissy about it then that's pathetic. Equally, Schaefer is being disingenuous with the facts:

No, it's not - he asked for the stupid ****ing testing in the first place, the very issue that has scuppered this fight. Paraphrased by the LA Times:

The original request was for testing right up until the fight. Manny said 30 days cut off. Mayweather said no. They went to mediation, Manny concedes the point to 24 day cut off. Then Mayweather says no and waits till after mediation to bring up 14 days.

If it's "just a matter of accepting 10 more days than (Manny's) camp has already accepted", why isn't it just a matter of Floyd accepting that he's pretty much got what he wanted?

It's pathetic on both parts, but I can see why Manny's refusing. It's bull**** politics.

 

In one article he actually lumps blood testing and urine testing together and says Manny is refusing both and yet some people seem to think Arum is the one with all the lies? atsch I have no dog in this fight. I like trying to stick to facts and I've got a bad case of "I don't want to go clean my basement" going on....... Only reason I wandered into one of these things. :yep

 

:rofl:rofl Says the Pacman stan!

 

We can all pick sides but to me random means not knowing when you will be tested. What 100% clean athelete would have a prob with that. Pac a man that claims to put so much faith in God now is letting superstition guide his decision to not fight. I find that really hard to believe.

 

Superstition is the wrong term. He 'has said' that he believes blood taken too soon before a fight weakens him. That was based on another experience. Might be right. Might be wrong. That is what he BELIEVES happened. And this is all about 'winning' in negotiations. Nothing more. Nothing less.

 

Unfortunately, simple facts seem to be confusing even posters who are normally good at boiling down the bull**** and seeing there's nothing there. That mediator press release said nothing about Arum lying. It said that Arum's statement might have made people think the mediator had proposed the 24 day cut off, when in fact the mediator made no commitment to what was the 'right' solution.

Arum has been bullish and difficult, but what else is new? Schaefer's a complete hypocrite, demanding stringent blood testing for Mayweather-Pac, but saying it was pointless when Judah was going to fight Mosley! Especially since Shane actually admitted using PEDs, unlike Manny who's never even been suspected till a bull**** comment from a former crackhead - that Schaefer seems to have had a change of heart is a bit rich.

The fact the journalist included the part about Arum hanging up is a clear indication they wanted Arum to appear in an unsympathetic light. That was sly and factually irrelevant to the piece.

It's a puff piece done for the writer's pal, Schaefer. Of course Schaefer wants the fight to happen - it'll net GBP nearly $60m. Arum wants the fight to happen for the same 60 million reasons. The two fighters want it to happen, but one of them is trying to make the other look bad, and that one isn't Manny.

Floyd started this testing bull**** and THAT has derailed the fight. It's pathetic.

 

I did not just use the term superstition for the heck of it. That was Pac's camp saying that. So unless you have some inside knowledge I am sticking to what they said of Pac having superstitions of giving blood so close to a fight making him feel weak. I have to say that excuse is bull****.

 

Did you hear Pac use that term? No, I read the article. The guy quoted stumbled around looking for the right term. Superstition was just one of the ones he used. You are going to question his faith on that basis? Please.

 

Bob Arum is the biggest POS in boxing and that's saying a lot.

 

Beliefs are superstitions:

a belief or notion, not based on reason or knowledge, in or of the ominous significance of a particular thing, circumstance, occurrence, proceeding, or the like.

He isn't basing it on any reason or knowledge, just his belief that it makes him weaker.

 

That 90 year old man traveled for 18 hours to get Pacquiao to agree on this fight and you say he was just playing around.