Schaefer: Mayweather vs Marquez biggest pay-per-view of the year.

Since your so fond of numbers why dont we take on the numbers. You talk about recession but can't seem to factor that out in Pac's fight. Well get this.....i bet 20% of those who watch DLH-PBF fight has money to spare. You seem to forget boxing is a niche sport. Bad economy or not you SHOULD be able to get at least 20% of your previous fights.

DLH-PBF 2.8 M US Buys
Hatton-PBF 900K US buys

It's abvious that after the DLH fight he only retained 32% of the buyers after that event. Don't that tell you something? Not even 50% This was when the economy was good.

If he is such a seller he should be able to get at least 50% of the original buyer. At the least 35% which is already really low.

PAC-DLH 1.2 M US Buys
PAC-HATTON 800K buys

That is 66% retention rate under a bad economy. What does that tell you? Are you familiar with statistics?

COMMON OPONNENT as PIMP C likes to shout. Well I thought that you are boxing fan and should know common opponent does not always insure a correct prediction. Just as this case.

On paper it seems Floyd does sell more. But any aspiring statistician could tell right off the bat what is the current trend. After their fight with the hottest boxer, PAC did better in retaining the interest of the buyers. Blame it on the styles and the stinker DLH-PBF fight. Also considering the circumstances, with good economy, 1st time 24/7 was employed, the biggest promotional effort and mystique of fighting the P4P # 1 fighter, contrast to the other where the economy was already deep into recession, 24/7 was already familiar, a bit less promotion, the defeats of DLH and Hatton to PBF still recent memory, the mystique of P4P 3 1 fighter already uncovered.

Some poster say PAC was already established when he fought JMM the 2nd time. True, but is PAC at JMM 2 bigger than PBF after DLH and Hatton? Then how come you are claiming that he's the hottest boxer since dela Hoya? Get your wits together before posting.

The 400k PPV buys of JMM-Pac 2 is significant coz this happend at lower weight class, it is pre-Hoya Pac. You are projecting that JMM-PBF will do 500k. This is pathetic. The economy might be ****, but you cant attract at LEAST a measly 20% of 2.8 of your former viewers? Then your BS hottest boxer since DLH is a mirage, and don't tell me that out of that 400k not a single one is from the latino base of JMM. The fact of the matter is the PBF has never been pretty, hes not the biggest draw outside DLH and Hatton, and can't even sell-out his tickets. Oh btw the PAC-JMM 2 was sold out.

 

merci senor. these floyd fans do not know the concept of statistics, bell curves or normal curves, probability, margin of error.

too much for their brain to process because of lack of oxygen after being stuck too long in pbf's ass. :tired

 

You're an utter moron. Floyd isnt going to sell as much against another fighter as DLH you dumbass. DLH is the greatest seller of PPV's outside heavyweight in history, how is Floyd going to do half of what he did against DLH every fight. You are a buffoon.


And when has Hatton ever sold more then Floyd? His fights with Lascano, Malignaggi and Castillo werent even on PPV lol.

Goddamn you are dumb. You are actually saying Pac does more then Floyd because he retained more buyers after the DLH fight, even though the fight only did less then HALF of what floyd did in the DLH fight. That doesnt even make any sense you moron. Its not Floyds fault that his fight with DLH was the biggest spectacle in boxing this decade and all Pac could do with DLH was half of what Floyd did.

Seriously you arent that stupid are you? I see alot of excuses per usual.

 

Has Schaefer totally forgot about Cotto-Pac? He cant compete with that. I agree the undercards are great, cant wait for John-Juarez II

 

I've heard Mayweather Promotions / Golden Boy Promotions are giving away FREE tickets to Floyd-JMM fight in several promo contests... Also online ticket sellers were starting to offer Floyd-JMM tickets at discounted bargain prices...

Hmmnnn... Very good promotional tactics for the biggest BORING PPV fight of the year...

Buy 1 Take 1 anyone...
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seriously we are talking numbers. Like you seem to point out whenever it suits your reasoning. Well let's say I am preparing a budget. i will look at the numbers right? But your a dumb if you look at whats on paper. You have to analyse why this is higher than the previous, why this is lower than the previous to predict the past.

As I've said aspiring statistician. You're not so you can't just grasp it. Never will you see or read that i said Pac sold more that PBF with their common opponents. What I am pointing out is if they are to fight today, or if they are going to fight non-marquee name, who's gonna sell more. With that you have to see the variance of how well they retain the buyers of their previous fight. This is called "following". Who is following this man? Is he losing followers? Why? You cant grasp this so arguing with you is pointless. Just point at the numbers but I sure as hell can say you cant interpret them correctly.

 

You clown. You are trying to establish a trend based off of 2 fights. Not only is that utterly hilarious but you fail to take into account that there were completely different subsets of fans that bought both the fights. In Oscars case, Mexicans. In Hattons case, Brits. The only difference being is that Floyd did more then Pac did with both groups.

Seriously are you really talking about who retained the highest percentage of buys when the overall numbers in total were so vastly different in size.

I could see if the first fight between DLh and Floyd did say 1.5 mil, but it did 2.4 mil, and considering we are talking a different fighter with the most popularity of any boxer in the world, of course the numbers are gonna drop off no matter who Floyd fought next.

You are merely guessing with no set trend or basis to do so that Pac will continue to outsell floyd no matter who he fights next. Which is absurd.

Pac was Pound for Pound number 1, Floyd was pound for pound number 1, yet Floyd blew Pacs numbers out of the water, and if Floyd fought Cotto, Mosley ect his numbers will continue to do so, as we will see when the PPV figures for JMM and Floyd comes back, which will shatter what Pac was able to do against him.

Floyd did more numbers against B level comp then Pac was able to do against A level comp in Barrera and Morales.

Sorry dope, your attempt at applying such poor statistical work in order to justify your logical fallacy has failed. Run along now before your really get embarrassed. :hi:

 

so danny, are you confident that PBF/JMM will outsell Pac/Cotto in PPV buys??? just asking...

 

:good Best post I've seen so far.

 

even with the stellar undercard mayweather-marquez will not crack $700k

 

2 fights? I started by saying it pathetic for PBF-JMM to figure 500K when JMM-PAC did 400K before his breakout fights. Why are you gonna put PBF's 375K against baldo? What other significant PPV did he have? In that case PAC's 400k against JMM, over a million with Morales trilogy and 325K over MAB is way greater than than any PBF ever had if we don't include give a great emphasis in in the last two fights. And these fight were BELOW lightweight. Are you conceding Pac was/is the greater seller?

My advice to you....exercise your brains. Your treading on quicksand.

 

I think Cotto and Pacquiao will do about 700,000 because its seen as the more even fight. While Mayweather will shade over 500,000.

 

You see. Your lack of knowledge of Floyds career or boxing in general gets you into trouble. Let me guess a *******? You all know so very little outside your own little Pac dickhugging sphere.

Floyd did big PPV buys with Baldomir, Judah and Gatti. All more then what Pac did in the Morales trilogy or fights with Barrera.



Cant believe you used 2 fights to truy and establish a trend. Without incorporating various variables into your analysis nor taking into account the massive difference in total amount sold. atsch slap yourself.

 

Of course it is. You're a clown. Like him.

 

floydettes here are insisting that this is a competitive fight but reception has truly been indicative of the contrary.

market reception is the best indicator of the potential fo this fight and in essence, the market cannot go wrong. the market is not composed only of nuthugging floydettes who insist that this is a competitive fight nor JMMorons in their pink tutus.

this is a fight wherein the tale of the tape is skewed to one fighter alone. as much i as i want this to be a competitive fight, i would surely be disappointed if PBF does not win decisively.