Schmeling vs. Jeffries

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Nosferatu, Jul 9, 2023.


  1. Nosferatu

    Nosferatu Corbett's thong is my proudest fap banned Full Member

    453
    519
    Apr 29, 2023
    Would Jeff overwhelm Max, or would Schmeling be able to outskill the Boilermaker?
     
    Levook and Pugguy like this.
  2. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

    15,894
    14,701
    Jun 9, 2007
    I'd put my money on Schmeling
     
  3. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

    10,289
    17,608
    Jan 6, 2017
    Honestly I don't think much of Jeff outside of his tremendous courage and durability. Maybe just maybe if Jeff invests in body shots and keeps a high work rate he can turn things around in the later rounds. But when I imagine this fight, Schmeling makes him look stupid with jabs, counters, good footwork, and intelligent boxing. It was just a totally different sport in the 40's and the start of the modern technical sweet science. Louis, Charles, Walcott, Schmeling, and others of that era paved the way for smarter boxing and flat footed sluggers who blocked with their face like Jeff were becoming a thing of the past.
     
  4. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

    15,910
    26,077
    Aug 22, 2021
    The "Something" that Max will "See" here, Jeff's Achille's Heel so to speak, - a weakness only discernible after meticulously studying the Boilermaker's "game" for hours on end - is that once Jeffries climbs through the ropes and the bell rings for the first round - Jeff is easy to hit, easy to hit, hard and often, with all manner of punch types.

    Jeff's only hope is that he can withstand the beating long enough to see Max tire badly and then step up his own offense to perhaps "clean up" his flagging opponent. Of course, the duration for this fight might or might not be relevant here.
     
    mcvey and Levook like this.
  5. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,593
    3,031
    Aug 26, 2020
    Man I wish we could see those early fighters in modern hi def. It's practically impossible to see any subtleties and to get a sense of their rhythm in the ring.

    The old timers are at a disadvantage in H2H matchups because of this.

    All things considered I'd lean towards Schmeling too.
     
    Pedro_El_Chef and Pugguy like this.
  6. Charles White

    Charles White Chucker Full Member

    8,794
    1,929
    Sep 13, 2008
    I tend to always go with the better boxer in a fight, so I’ll take Schmeling.
     
    Pugguy and Pedro_El_Chef like this.
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

    97,228
    28,175
    Jun 2, 2006
    The only footage we have of Jeffries being pro-active in a fight ,is against Ruhlin.In that fight he trundles forward his left hand near his waist,he looks wide open to right hands ,and Max had an excellent one.Schmeling was also a good boxer,Apart from durability I don't see what Jeffries brings to the table.
     
    Reinhardt and Pugguy like this.
  8. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

    13,588
    18,290
    Oct 4, 2016
    Max has a style that's all wrong for Jeffries. He busts up his face , could go 15 though.
     
    mcvey likes this.
  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

    50,491
    23,792
    Jan 3, 2007
    I’d make Schmeling the favorite. His skill and mobility was vastly superior I think. Jeffries would have a puncher’s chance but that’s about I’d give him
     
    mcvey likes this.
  10. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

    58,820
    78,297
    Aug 21, 2012
    I'd plump for Schmeling except for one thing: he fought the skills-limited but powerful Baer like a fool, ploughing right into him over and over. If he does the same thing against Jeffries he might lose.
     
    cross_trainer likes this.
  11. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,494
    2,188
    Nov 8, 2008
    Schmelling lost to absolute no hopers. Fact. Before and after Louis. Fact.

    Schmelling could not zee somsing because there was no film back then and the chances that he travels from Germany to the US to study Jeffries are slim to none including the one month boat ride.

    On the classic "expert" section Jeffries looses every single fight yet in real life he was undefeated until he came out half a decade after retirement getting hog fat to take on the best fighter at that time and still lasted 14/15 rounds...............and dont give me that shid Johnson carried him., no fighter in their right mind carries ANYBODY for 15, two or three maybe but never 15.

    So I take Jeffries under the rules of his day over one fight hot wonder Schmelling.

    Waiting for as response from the Number 1 Jeffries hater and Johnson apologist incoming.
     
    Mike Cannon and cross_trainer like this.