School me on Julian Jackson?

McCallum didn't hit anywhere near as hard as those other three for mine Philly. For me he had good power to maybe a little better at 154 and was pretty average at 160.

 

Jackson hit harder than welfare in winter. As mentioned before, he was an underrated technician who had the delivery system to land his awesome arsenal. The detached retinas were a problem as his career went on (especially at middleweight) and may have affected his accuracy and effectiveness. He produced some of the most picturesque one punch knockouts of the 80's/90's and was the ultimate truth test at 154. McCallum prevailed and Norris didn't. The right hand he landed on Herol Graham for the WBC middleweight title was one of my favourites as the British announcers were blathering on and on about Graham's dominance until Jackson backed into a corner and dropped a hydrogen bomb counter on poor Graham's up-in-the air chin. One of the most frightening and devastating knockouts you will ever see. Incredible balance, co-ordination, leverage, technique, functional muscle strength and natural power all combined to make a frightening puncher at his best.

 

Yet, from his debut in 81 through 87, only 3 guys managed to last the distance with him, prior to moving up to 160...perhaps attrition as much as power, but I still feel he was on their level and even more so skill wise. J.J. is to me very good, but way overrated when people try to call him great.

Tommy has 3 guys go the distance between 82-84. Tommy is one of my All Time favorite welters, but when people talk about his huge power in regards to 154/160-175 I don’t see it. To me McCallum was on par with Tommy from 154 and up.

Mugabi does not impress me...but I will leave that one alone for now.

 

Hearns destruction of Duran at 154 completely decimates anything Mike ever done at any weight.

Hearns for me has become underrated, power wise above 154. He rendered James Schuler unconscious with one punch. 9 months after his last fight at 154 he had the durable Dennis Andries up and down like a yoyo at 175. Andries went on to beat Czyz not much later and figured solidly in the division for years after including title wins. His power was obvious on the rugged Roldan and he put his lights out for the full 10 with a monster right hand. Putting SRL down twice around the middleweight mark was also extremely notable as was hurting Hill with single shots and having him very gun shy. Even when way over the hill (so to speak LOL) he was dropping Cruiserweights with single shots tho admittedly the quality of opposition was dropping.

Sure he had his moments where people surprisingly lasted the distance and took some bombs bu they all do, and he also Hearns battled right hand injuries for much of his career post Welterweight.

Mike often killed the body so the head would die. His stoppages mostly came from class, a great body attack and keeping so much pressure on with those old school counters. Only one guy went the distance with Holmes in a dozen defenses post Norton but it was from class, pressure and stamina more than power. It's also about who you fight of course. Sure he had good power, he was no light hitter. Above 154 i found him quite flat power wise tho. Watson would be the only notable he stopped.

I personally don't think he is on the same planet as Hearns, Jackson and even Mugabi however. Having said that he'd be Mugabi's worst nightmare.

 

well we obviously disagree lol, no biggie! I do agree he would be a nightmare for Mugabi...and he was a nightmare in “reality” for Jackson ...not to bad for someone who didn’t “hit as hard” as they did.

hearns vs McCallum would be a dream fight I love both guys and think they are the only 2 in the conversation at 154...Jackson and Mugabi are a similar level in my mind a notch below both McCallum and Hearns.

 

Hey all good Philly!!!! Yes his skill would trump their power all day long. Jackson was somewhat green but i don't think he changed much and certainly i would not back any version to beat McCallum.

Jackson and Mugabi are well behind Hearns and McCallum for sure. Norris is too fragile to be in the convo with them tho he had some great assets.

 

Oh, just on this one i'd have Mugabi below Jackson at 154. Jackson got a lot more work done and i think he'd be a level above.

Merry Christmas Philly!

 

I definitely agree on this...and the previous post in regards to Norris. I do remember I was as big a Norris fan as there was early on....thought he would be a legend instead of just very very good!

 

Terry just needed a bit more on the whiskers front didn't he. I have to admit tho it used to really make me wild how often he hit guys when they were on the ground.

 

You really need to be "schooled" on Julian Jackson? Really?

 

I Agree with everyone who said 154 was his best. Not sure about 160 because both losses to McCellan came in fight night over 170 & close to 180 rematch. JJ didn't want to complain but post fight 2 he said "Gerald is a really BIG middleweight."

So for MWs who aren't weight bullies he holds his own.

 

Got to disagree my bro. McCallum was more of an accumulation puncher . He didn't hit with the Force of Hearns,Mugabi, and especially Jackson, though skill wise, Jackson and Mugabi are not on the same planet. Hopefully your not thinking because of the one punch shot against Curry , that somehow makes him a great puncher. That was more perfect timing + suspect chin, than the actual force of the punch. McCallum's game was pinpoint counter punching, and a devastating body attack.

 

Heavy hitter but weak chinned.