Scientists were brought in to explain to Floyd how protected he was ...

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  1. Boxing Fanatic

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    The 1st three are not random. If urine testing is so effective, why didn't Nevada catch Mosley in 2003 against Oscar?
     
  2. PowerPuncher

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    Pacquaio is the 1 who wouldnt sign the contract. Pacquaio is the 1 who wouldnt prove he wasnt taking performance enhancing drugs. Mayweather gave him the chance to clear his name and make 40million
     
  3. PowerPuncher

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    Pacquaio is the 1 who wouldnt sign the contract. Pacquaio is the 1 who wouldnt prove he wasnt taking performance enhancing drugs. Mayweather gave him the chance to clear his name and make 40million

    Why wouldnt Pac let someone random take take 1ml of blood for 40million? Something to hide? Mayweather agreed to the random tests, Pac wouldnt

    Pacs who career will have a big question mark next to it
     
  4. fastfist

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    its already 2010. a lot of improvements have already been made to detect known substances. As someone already mentioned "urine testing is the prescribed method by WADA to detect EPO and is now developed by USADA to detect HGH".
     
  5. crimson

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    BALCO.

    How and what people tests changed after that.
     
  6. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    To the thread starter - how do you feel now smartass ?... you were told about getting ****s hopes up, now the fight is off because 2 selfish ego-maniacs cant put a small dent in their pride for the fans.
     
  7. fastfist

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    what made you so sure pac is on peds? can you actually prove it? why would he risk getting weak before the fight if it is absolutely unnecessary?
     
  8. marsb8888

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    You're really working overtime spouting ******ed shits in esb. How much is floyd paying you for this job? Or maybe the payment is in kind? How many floyd dick sucking sessions have you earned today from floyd? :lol:
     
  9. Stezzie

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    You cant prove it because Pac wont agree to random blood test...
     
  10. DatBo215

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    Easily one of the dumbest statements on what has proved to be a ridiculous thread. I want to preface this by saying I do not think Pac is on Peds, but someone please explain to me what is RANDOM about set dates? The point of the disagreement was random testing. Yes Manny will agree to random urine testing just like every single MLB player from 1997-2003 did, same way Mosley and Toney have. It has an can be beat. The head of the Balco scandle the man in charge of the USADA has said as much and any one with a memory should be able to understand as much. The "cheating" would be most beneifical during training camp when the PEDs would allow pac to train harder and longer thus making him faster and more prepared in the ring. The test after the fight is meaningless, the test at the 24 mark is planned and the test during the tour is meaningless as it is planned an in the first stages of training.

    The fact that there was an issue with any style of testing is ridiculous for an innocent man. Who cares about the who what where and why. Yea yea he never failed a test before, and a fighter is undefeated until he loses it doesn't mean he
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    Sammy Sosa has never failed a test, hell neither has Bonds but these are "known" cheaters. It seems like plain ignorance or bias that some people here are arguing against stricter testing policies. I don't care if they were Don Kings idea or some MMA fighter insuated all boxers cheat and thats what sparked this. As a fan I want even fair CLEAN fights. I want the best testing possible, and I don't want, nor do I understand, athletes who need stipulations made to stricter policies. With the amount of money they are set to make they should be tested every ****in day. Floyd may have been out of line for insuating Pac cheated without proof but Pac has done nothing but live up to the accusation by make this fuss about the testing. If you have nothing to hide then stop hiding.
     
  11. el mosquito

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    I am ****en mad at why Floyd wouldn't accpet the deal, i lay down the kind of test manny proposed and experts say Floyd is sufficiently protected. i researched and found Jeff mayweather's interview a month ago saying floyd is looking to fight in the UK. He didn't even ****en make a counter-offer to Manny's 24 day proposal. I am ****en disgusted, i want a March 13 fight.

    I ****en hope Manny do something because he's the one who cares more about fans' opinion- make an announcement agreeing to any kind of test floyd wants and challenge floyd mano-a-mano. And he should do it before floyd even signs a contract with the Great Matty Hatty of Manchester
     
  12. charlievint

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    No....Floyd is the one who wouldn't sign the contract if PAC did NOT take ADDED tests that he wanted. And more recently Floyd refused to sign the contract that the independant mediator came up with to save this fight. FLOYD REFUSED.

    You can't prove that Manny is or isn't taking PEDs now....the rumor has spread and it's out there. Even if he took the tests that Floyd demanded....Had Floyd won....Floyd and his fans would say "See...it proves PAC was on PEDs before b/c Floyd won"

    If PAC WON....Floyd and his fans would say "PAC found a way to get around the olympic style testing and the Philipines have the BEST PEDs on the market"

    THe excuses will definiltely be there win loose or draw for Manny, so Manny was always in a no win situation after Floyd sunk this low to spread baseless rumors to discredit, tarnish and hurt Manny's career.

    PAC's legacy will be fine when he retires...it's a shame that there will be a few who question PAC and wheterh he used or not, but the majority see it for what it is. 70% of most polls across the US and world wide are siding with PAC ...NOT FLOYD....especially after Floyd refusing the mediators proposal to save the fight.

    Floyd needed this fight more than Manny from every conceviable angle.
     
  13. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Radom testing wouldn't prove anything bro....no more than the test that have already been in place for boxing for years. Take Lance for instance....you know how many folks still question Lance who did undergo all the testing that was forced upon him based on rumors? His name is still tarnished, but most believe he did his thing clean and clear as they will remember Manny.
     
  14. Stezzie

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    :good
     
  15. fastfist

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    If you are correct then no fight should have ever been made that didn't pass thru the Olympic style testing which is kind of dumb.