Scientists were brought in to explain to Floyd how protected he was ...

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  1. frank1

    frank1 Member Full Member

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    Floyd is just a cop out .He'll find something else to moan about if the testing is
    resolved.
     
  2. PildiLagiMo

    PildiLagiMo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    this is too scientific for floyd and his diots to understand. too much meth and xylocaine does that to you.
     
  3. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Pacroid is Pacroid
     
  4. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What they're saying is just because urine is the legal test for EPO, it doesn't exclude them from using blood to test with in the future especially in combination with urine. What remains however is the fact that blood CANNOT DETECT EPO. The reason urine is the legal test is because it can directly identify between human EPO and simulated EPO unlike blood. Blood can only be used as a marker showing elevated results from using EPO but not detect the EPO directly.

    In a court of law, you can't convict just because you think someone is on EPO you have to directly prove they are on X drug. This is where blood falls on its face obviously.

    As far as EPO, the urine tests are very advanced. The days when they were behind the curve are long gone especially when you consider the amount of resources it takes to develop EPO and the fact, the fact that the pharmaceuticals that make EPO are working directly with WADA to develop the tests.

    That aside there's no point to using blood except to **** this fight away or to store blood for future retesting. Blood has shown its futility in detecting HGH, which leaves its real use as a screening tool. It's like blips on a radar, and then you send in the recon team in this case is urine.

    At the end of the day all anyone really needs to understand is that urine is the legal test for most substances including EPO.
     
  5. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    IF Floyd and Shane took the test and no problems, Manny should also, what makes hm so special in this instance. Case Dismissed!
     
  6. drkjck

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    well..at least we could say that shane has to take it because he wanted to make a big payday..manny is different though..well, if 40million is at stake, why bring something that would ruin the negotiations..the fight would have happen if mayweather didnt make that unprecedented demand to a clean fighter right?
     
  7. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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  8. henrik

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    the only thing that they should do was to take a bloodtest right after the fight.If that is clean,you can“t be on ANYTHING through the fight!! Thats logic...
    Mayweather is just playing around!!
     
  9. BOXING/MMAFAN

    BOXING/MMAFAN The Fan Full Member

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    manny has used steroids and the truth eventually will come out.. it always does.. floyd knows he is/has used which is why he is standing his ground. simple, if you have nothing to hide then there should be no problem and anyone that argues that and uses morals and superstition as their excuse are idiots man seriously, if you have nothing to hide you take the fkn test plain and simple, BUT on the flip side mr floyd if you are the mad, if you are the best then fight the midget that uses steroids and kick his ass either way right! :) as you can tell i dnt give a **** really if this fight happens its sickening already i hope they make some other matchups soon i just wanna watch some competative matches drink some beers get drunk **** my chick and crash out
     
  10. BOXING/MMAFAN

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    edit " if you are the man "
     
  11. divac

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    I'm not an expert and dont understand alot of it, but have you read this., tha latest from Floyd Landis talking about how cyclist beat the current tests??????.......


    http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cycling/news/story?id=5222488
     
  12. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Landis is a guy that got caught, then denied it. Wrote a book about living clean, took money from his fans to pay his lawyers to fight his conviction. Then he paid hackers to break into the labs to dig up dirt.

    He then was caught and convicted on the hacking and got a lifetime ban from cycling for it.

    Now he's trying to write a new book on how he cheated all along and is using Lance as his bombshell.

    Yea... I'm not buying what he's selling.
     
  13. Toopretty

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    Oh **** another fish frenzy around this mother****er..lol These ****ing ******ed whores are trying to recycle arguments you lost.. lol That **** is pathetic. There is a thread on another site from a roid giver explaining in detail on how ANY cut off test can be beaten with EPO. The **** made sense and although there is no foolproof way.. random at any time is the best way. Nothing you fish faced dancing trannies can say or do about it.
     
  14. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    You dont find it interesting how Landis is outlining exactly how cyclist go about beating the tests???

    Certainly, the lab experts are finding what he has had to say interesting and useful.

    I found it interesting that he noted that EPO could exit an athletes body within hours.
     
  15. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    No, you're reading it wrong. Blood tests are used only to screen suspicious samples since urine testing is more costly. Urine testing confirms what blood testing can only hold suspicious as far as EPO use. This makes sense when you are drug testing thousands of athletes at the olympic games. With Floyd and Pac, you're only testing 2 athletes so costs don't matter. Only HGH cannot be detected presently with urinalysis, so that is what blood testing is for. BTW, HGH use can be detected far beyong a 14 day window.