Scores for Margo vs. Williams

If you recorded the fight, take a look at that 1st round again.....HBO gave lots of credit to Williams for shots that Margarito was picking off.

I dont really have a problem if anybody gave the round to Williams, he was clearly the busier fighter, but in my view he was'nt effectively busy as most of his shots were clearly and visibley getting picked off while most missed a few hard body shots by Margarito that caught my attention.

My reasoning for an even round was that Margarito's harder cleaner body shots offset the busier Williams who was constantly getting blocked by Margarito's gloves.

 

116-112 for Williams.

 

Lampley also got really shrill yelping about a lot of Margarito's combinations wherein very few shots landed. You want to talk about Tony picking punches off, then we need to also remember how many Paul slipped. Alot more than Tony blocked. :smoke

 

:rofl

 

Somewhere between that and :yikes

 

:-( your boy lost, cant you give williams any credit

 

:nono Margarito was punching plenty hard to Williams gut, thats a good reason right there to start to flick and slap with your punches, as Williams did.

There were intances in the fight where Williams would slap and miss with 6 seven punches in a row.


One fighter threw and landed with authorative shots, the other did'nt.
From my perspective, its that simple.

 

Exactly, no response, and no scorecard either.
You just made my point! :rofl

 

116-113 for Margarito is such a horrible score card. The Margo fans must be in denial at the moment.

 

land=touch. if you use this (honest) scoring criteria, williams landed plenty and made margarito miss alot more with his slipping than margarito made him miss with his guard. paul touched margarito's face and neck with half of his flicks in some of those exchanges. were they crushing shots? no. was it effective aggressiveness? well it kept margarito in the range paul wanted him for all but a few rounds of the fight, so i'd say yeah.

 

I can actually live with the 115-113 scorecards turned in by the two judges.
As I said before, there were alot of close rounds....but imo Margarito being the champion, the aggressor, and landing the harder more authorative blows was disrespected in those close round (as they obviously tilted toward Williams by the judges)

Thats no disrespect to Williams, who clearly imo found a way to keep the fight close even in the eyes of someone like myself that scored it for Margarito.

.....again, no disrespect to Williams. I was actually impressed with his staying power down the stretch when Margarito made his customary late charge.

Dont mis-interpret an opinion that Margarito won as disrespect to Williams.
Williams definitely proved he belongs as a player in the welterweight division.

 

fine but as for agression, while margo came forward, it was williams who threw way more. margo's blows were more effective but niether man was hurt. williams pretty much beat margo at hiw own game, volume punching. he started off slow like he did vs. clottey but this time it really hurt him.

 

Its a matter of opinion I would guess.

I will say that I scored this fight with unbiased eyes. I did'nt favor won fighter over the other.
.......and I'll also say that I'm a consistent scorer.
For those that know me some, they'll find that I typically favor the harder punching aggressor over a fighter that backtracks while slapping.

This particular fight reminds me some of the Chris Byrd-Andrew Golata fight.....where I clearly had Golata as a more clear winner than Margarito did tonight......

......yet there are those in this forum that would swear Byrd's slaps was enough for them to say Byrd outboxed Golata.

I favor aggression and harder punching over a fighter like Byrd and Williams that not out to punch with a fully closed fist.
I'm consistent in my scoring as to score as such, and my 116-113 score in favor of Margarito I feel reflects that.

 

You just said it Silver.........
"MARGO'S BLOWS WERE MORE EFFECTIVE!".......how can anybody who just said this ridicule my 116-113 score.

Magarito's punches were more effective, thats why I did'nt typically follow HBO's lead and assume Williams volume was enough to get him the rounds........

They both are volume puncher Silver, we all knew that going in......
.....but Margarito was more effective, thus he won on my card!:deal

 

there's effective in terms of being ostensibly harder and accumulatively damaging, and then there's effective in terms of controlling the ring. margarito's were the former, williams' were the latter. the one type of effective aggressiveness only matters if it culminates in a KO, the other wins rounds. :good