Scoring 10-8 rds where there is no kd

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by thefactor, Dec 26, 2016.


  1. ryuken87

    ryuken87 Active Member Full Member

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    If a 10-8 round is occurring then it's likely the ref/corner is gonna stop it anyway, perhaps that's why we don't see it more often.

    I would score round 6 of Mayweather-Gatti a 10-8 (which was stopped straight after).
     
  2. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I never do it. I've seen Teddy Atlas do it, but he's also completely mental.

    I score plenty of even rounds 10-10 because, well, they're even.
     
  3. Optimus Dime

    Optimus Dime Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    John McDermott vs. Danny Williams in one of the two a battles.. no knockdown..
     
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  5. Unforgiven

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    Sorry, I meant I disagree with your scoring method.
    If 10-10 and 10-8 ought to be so rare, 10-9 will cover too much ground.

    It's not fair to give a round 10-9 if it's so close it's arguably the other way, and at the same time reward a clear boxing lesson with 10-9 also.
     
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  6. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Khan Maidana round 10 should have been a 10/8 to Maidana, not sure if it was scored that way.
     
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  7. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    And that's exactly how it's done most of the time, and why it's so easy to score a fight for the guy you want to win.
    Boxing's scoring is extremely flawed, because we can get a guy that edges the first 5 rounds on most scorecards and then gets figured out and beaten from pilar to post in the next 5 get a draw out of it (or even win, see Matthysse vs Alexander), and have people claim it wasn't a robbery because of how boxing is scored.
    Another good example
     
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  8. Unforgiven

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    Yeah, I noticed a lot of people who were arguing over Kovalev-Ward were talking about a lot of rounds they ultimately admitted could go either way but when you add up the rounds over the whole fight it made all the difference.
    Doesn't seem fair. If there's a proper degree of doubt of subjectivity, just call it 10-10.
    10-9 should be something you can stand by with 100% confidence.
    10-8 should be some sort of domination.
     
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  9. thefactor

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    That's what I'm talking about in the original post. It doesn't necessarily need to be a severe beating. You need to look at the complexion of the fight. Fight A squeaks the 1st 5 rds then gasses fight B schools the next 5. B has won the fight but only gets a draw. Every one knows B has won but it won't show on the cards unless he's awarded at least a 2 point rd. I know some people will say that's fine but how does that work in reverse? A wins 5 big then B edges 5 with no 10-8's for A. There's nothing wrong with giving A a 2 pointer and if B wins his 5 the same way you could throw in a 10-8 for him and it would justifiably be a draw. If B has anything less than 5 big rds then he gets no 10-8's. I know that sounds a little complicated and unlikely to happen very often but the point is there shouldn't be a set criteria. Every fight is different and you need to asses how the fight is going when dishing out 2 point rds.
     
  10. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    I'm looking forward to a lot more 10\10 rounds in 2017 as they are relatively common
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    It actually is exactly as fair as it was meant to be when the system was implemented. The whole point of ten-point must is that, generally speaking, no matter how competitive the frame is, the victor gets ten (barring any deductions on fouls) and the loser gets nine. That isn't an oversight but rather the crux of how the system was envisioned. They did that on purpose, and their instincts weren't off the mark IMO. There's nothing the matter with the fact that you can have a hard-fought and 'close' 120-108 shutout while on the other end of the spectrum having a 116-112 that became a whitewash and even a downright shellacking from the 5th on.
     
  12. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    You make good points. Try explaining to a non boxing fan that a round would be scored 10-8 if a glove touches the canvas after a glancing blow with the boxer maybe off balance at the time, but a three minute domination where there is no knockdown is likely to be scored 10-9 in most cases. That's an anomaly...
     
  13. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The scoring of boxing is usually no better or worse than the scoring for any other subjectively scored contest. The points system used is almost irrelevant. The human element - the interpretation and judgement - is where the controversy lies.

    Different people often see the exact same thing in very different ways.

    A good example is a crime witnessed by a number of people. If you compare their witness statements it is can be almost impossible to believe they witnessed the exact same occurrence.