Scoring blood? What do you think?

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  1. CocoonOfHorror!

    CocoonOfHorror! LONG-TIME LURKER! Full Member

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    Sometimes they talk about the judges scoring blood. What's your personal thoughts on this? What's the history? How far does it go? If one guy wins most of the round then gets cut by a punch is it as good as getting wobbled badly? Might ya score it for the other guy based on that? Do you ever even think about it when you scre a fight? :huh
     
  2. CocoonOfHorror!

    CocoonOfHorror! LONG-TIME LURKER! Full Member

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  3. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Duran deserves a mention
     
  4. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  5. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It can be evidence of "effective aggression" so yes, it would be factored in to some degree.

    I wouldn't say it as good as getting "wobbled badly" because a cut is sometimes just one of those things -not enough vaseline, Irish ethnicity, scar tissue, etc.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    All fights I watch are scored on a "first blood" basis, with the first fighter to draw blood winning on my card. So Lewis actually won the event.
     
  7. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I only score on blood if there's enough to blood to write the letters 'WAR' with on the guys forehead.
     
  8. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    The only way to truly conquer a foe is to draw rivers of blood from their festering, open wounds. I view any and all fights where this does not occur as farcical no contests.
     
  9. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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  10. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Whenever a fighter is cut, by a punch, or a headbutt, I always give a two point swing.
     
  11. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I remember one poster made a thread on here furiously challenging Lampley's constant assertion, or "myth", that judges score blood and that rational scorers are somehow fooled by blood.
     
  12. HawkFan16

    HawkFan16 Unshot/In My Prime Full Member

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    if the cut was caused by a headbutt, i.e. not initially caused by a fighter's fists, then I don't factor it into the scoring. Hence, I wouldn't reward Holyfield if he gashed somebody open with a headbutt, nor was my scoring in Mosley-DLH II affected when Mosley opened that cut on DLH's head with a headbutt. I think DLH bleeding certainly did sway some of the judges in that fight though, and it was wrong.

    If fighter A controls most of the pace and seems to land more effective blows, but fighter B cuts A and shows little/no damage from fighter A's offense, then I'd be inclined to score for fighter B in the round the cut happens in.

    The rest of the scoring in a fight with such a situation would be determined by how much worse the cut/facial damage gets, obviously.
     
  13. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Though "First blood" is always noteworthy, cuts often have a baring on a fight but should not automaticly result in the winning of a round. many times a cut comes from the last moments of a round like Holyfeild Holmes so you cannot say, even though it causes an advantage, that the round should go to who ever scores "first blood" IMO.
     
  14. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    In general I don't think blood means anything. If a punch happens to land and open the skin, it doesn't necessarily mean it was a harder or cleaner punch, which is what the criteria should focus on. It seems like a superficial detail more than it does a definitive sign of success in terms of points.
     
  15. CHAL_DIESEL

    CHAL_DIESEL GOAT Full Member

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    Depends. If a fighter is doing more damage to his opponent then his opponent, but landing less punches I usually score it for the fighter doing the most damage.