Scoring fights by tissue damage

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by NickHudson, Apr 17, 2012.


  1. NickHudson

    NickHudson Active Member Full Member

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    Clearly hard to quantify, as not all damage is visible but....

    This would go to the heart of boxing as fighting rather than sport / art.

    Which decisions in history might have been reversed?

    How about:

    Hagler v Leonard
    Duran versus hagler
    Duran v Leonard 3:deal
    Ali v Frazier 1

    Thoughts??
     
  2. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some fighters mark up more and easier than others.
     
  3. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    Lewis KO 7 Vitali.
     
  4. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How about :
    Ali vs Chuvalo #1
    Frazier vs Bonavena #1
    Holyfield vs Moorer #1



    brain is also a tissue , i did not consider it as a cuts thread
     
  5. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    The type of hand wraps will affect tissue damage. IE Margarito's loaded gloves, Resto-Collins. The way Freddie Roach wraps Manny's gloves now makes his opponents mark up pretty badly. It also depends on skin type as some fighters cut more easily, IE Cooper/Napoles
     
  6. NickHudson

    NickHudson Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah, I agree that fighters susceptible to skin cuts suffer here, but maybe resistance to cutting is deservedly an important issue that you deserve credit for as a fighter??
     
  7. NickHudson

    NickHudson Active Member Full Member

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    Like the chuvalo call but.... Ali may have pissed blood (good example of what I am talking about) but had a face like a piece of raw meat so how do these damaged tissues weigh up against each other??
     
  8. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Borkhorsor-Herrera.
    Hodkinson-Villasana 2
     
  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    some ppl tend 2 cut much more than others and it is not just genetical , it depends alot also on d way d man lives his life and also in his corner (cutman & oiling / vaselining) .
    I count damage 2 internal organs much more . I think cuts r much more curable than kidneys , usually at least . Same with comparing cuts 2 brain damage .
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Terrible idea. Anyone who does this shouldn't score.
     
  11. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I count KDs much more than i count scoring cuts . Put headgear/masks on d people
    and c my preference becumming true .
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Maybe it isn't.

    In fact, it definitely isn't.

    It's enough that the paper skinned fighters run the risk of TKO losses on cuts (whereas thicker skinner fighters don't as much).

    It should have no bearing whatsoever on scoring.
     
  13. NickHudson

    NickHudson Active Member Full Member

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    Seems like you prefer the conventional will based approach, no worries.

    I am merely shooting the breeze, trying to see if there is any merit in considering these more visceral factors...
     
  14. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A fight should be scored on the ACTION in the ring...Who is doing the better boxing, landing more punches, landing better punches, and getting out the way of punches better.

    Fighters should NOT be penalized points for what they cannot control. You score a fight based on what each fighter is doing in the ring.

    Its the same with punching power. You can't automatically score a shot from a puncher as superior to that from a boxer. You have to look at the individual punches and the affect they have.