Scoring for ~ ESB's BIG FIGHT PICKS ~ Prediction League

We need to chose a system of scoring for the new ~ ESB's BIG FIGHT PICKS ~ Prediction League. So far, we have two options. If you have a better system, please post it, in its final, complete form. Once I know which systems are on offer, I will put up a poll for us to chose the best one.

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wide/close specific correct UD pick = 30 points
any correct decision pick = 25 points
for just correct winner pick = 15 points

exact round correct KO pick = 45 points
1 round off correct KO pick = 40 points
2-3 rounds off correct KO pick = 35 points
any other correct KO pick = 30 points
for just correct winner pick = 15 points

a wide UD will mean any decision where all 3 judges score the fight for one fighter and 2 or more of the judges' scores are 116-112 or wider. If two of the judges score the bout 115-113 then it's a close UD. In the case of a SD/MD, then it's scored as close UD as well.

With this system, the difference between picking the correct decision (wide or close) is only 5 points, so the judges' scores (which are rarely correct in boxing) don't play a major role in this league. With the specific score picks system (B) - below, there will be arguing going on when judges' scores are too wide or too close and it just complicates the league.


Examples using Calzaghe-Kessler and Mormeck-Haye:

Poster A picks Calzaghe wide UD, so he wins 30 points (since judges scored that bout 116-112, 116-112, 117-111)
Poster B picks Calzaghe TKO9, so he wins 15 points.
Poster C picks Calzaghe close UD, so he wins 25 points.

Poster A picks Haye wide UD Mormeck, so he wins 15 points
Poster B picks Haye TKO9 Mormeck, so he wins 35 points.
Poster C picks Haye close UD Mormeck, so he wins 15 points.

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• wrong pick = 0 points
• correct winner alone = 5 points
• correct winner + correct Decision or T/KO = 10 points
• draw = 30 points

Stoppage picks:

A stoppage pick would be e.g. "Haye T/KO 7"

...meaning, Haye will stop Mormeck in the 7th round

• correct round of stoppage = 25 points
• 1 round off correct round of stoppage, either up or down = 20 points
• 2 rounds off correct round of stoppage, either up or down = 15 points
• 3 rounds or more off correct round of stoppage, either up or down = 10 points

Decision picks:

A decision pick would be e.g. "Calzaghe UD by 4"

...meaning, Calzaghe beats Kessler by 4 points (UD 116-112)

• correct number of points advantage for winner = 25 points
• 1 point off correct number of points advantage for winner, up or down = 20 points
• 2 points off correct number of points advantage for winner, up or down = 15 points
• 3 points or more off correct number of points advantage for winner, up or down = 10 points

so, picking:

Calzaghe UD by 3 (e.g. UD 117-114) or Calzaghe UD by 5 (e.g. UD 116-111) = 20 points
Calzaghe UD by 2 (e.g. UD 118-116 ) or Calzaghe UD by 6 (e.g. UD 115-109) = 15 points
Calzaghe UD by 1 (e.g. UD 120-119) or Calzaghe UD by 7 (e.g. UD 115-108) or Calzaghe UD by 8 (e.g. UD 120-112), or more = 10 points


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Amsterdam's (old) system, used in his league, last year, without the "clean-sweep":

Scoring:

Wrong pick: 0 points

The right fighter with the wrong result: 5 points

The right fighter with the right result(ko or dec.): 10 points

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Extra points :

For decision picks, type either 'close' or 'wide'.

MD/SD automatically falls under close. 115-113,115-113,116-112 would be 'close'. 116-112,116-112,115-113 and WIDER falls under 'wide'.

Correct decision result: 15 points.

For stoppage picks -

Coming within 3 rounds of the round where it was stopped: 15 points

Within 1 round: 20 points.

The correct round: 25 points.

DRAW/NC/TD prediction that hits: 30 points


Examples using Calzaghe-Kessler and Mormeck-Haye:

Poster A picks Calzaghe wide UD, so he wins 15 points
Poster B picks Calzaghe TKO9, so he wins 5 points.
Poster C picks Calzaghe close UD, so he wins 10 points.

Poster A picks Haye wide UD Mormeck, so he wins 5 points
Poster B picks Haye TKO9 Mormeck, so he wins 15 points.
Poster C picks Haye close UD Mormeck, so he wins 5 points.

(Similar to system A); has the same problems as system A). and the same advantages over system B).)

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• wrong pick = 0 points
• correct winner alone = 5 points
• correct winner + correct Decision or T/KO = 10 points
• correct wide/close decision = 15 points
• correct stoppage early (first 6 rounds)/ late (last 6 rounds) = 15 points e.g. Haye TKO late
• draw = 30 points

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• wrong pick = 0 points
• correct winner alone = 5 points
• correct winner + correct Decision or T/KO = 10 points
• correct wide/close decision = 15 points
• correct stoppage early (rounds 1-4)/ mid-rounds (rounds 5-8 )/ late (rounds 9-12) = 15 points e.g. Haye TKO mid-rounds
• draw = 30 points

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• wrong pick = 0 points
• correct winner alone = 5 points
• correct winner + correct Decision or T/KO = 10 points
• correct wide/close decision = 15 points
• correct stoppage first quarter (rounds 1-3)/ second quarter (rounds 4-6)/ third quarter (rounds 7-9)/ fourth quarter (10-12) = 15 points e.g. Haye TKO third quarter
• draw = 30 points

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G) Amsterdam's method, as outlined in C) but including the "clean sweep". i.e. 20 points added to the weeks' total for picking all the winners correctly.

Please NOTE: there will not always be the same number of fights each week. This week there are four. Next week there might be two or just one - we only pick BIG fights. Is it fair to add the "clean sweep" for predicting 2 fights as well as for predicting 4, say?

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BigBone's odds matching system - see his post at #21 and onwards.

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better now?

 

I like B best. It's the most logical.:good

 

Right! Off to bed!

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us!:good

 

I have added 3 more scoring systems...please have a look; please add your own suggestion for a scoring system!:good

 

It wouldn't make so much sense in this league because we're not going to have equal numbers of fights each week. There are four this week; there might be only one or two next week. Seems unfair to give a clean sweep for both 4 correct picks and for 2 correct picks, for example...:think

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Fair enough...I will add the Amsterdamic method + clean sweep to the lot!:good