Scoring Loma's Losses

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by lufcrazy, Nov 18, 2023.


What should the 3 results have been?

  1. Loma goes 3-0

    22 vote(s)
    17.6%
  2. Loma goes 2-1

    56 vote(s)
    44.8%
  3. Loma goes 1-2

    28 vote(s)
    22.4%
  4. Loma goes 0-3

    19 vote(s)
    15.2%
  1. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    You have a serious reading comprehension problem
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I can't stand the way you reply multiple times. It's very messy.

    For the first minute Loma throws like 8 punches, and is almost constantly backtracking trying to stay out of range. It's impossible to think Loma does better in that first minute.

    For the last minute he again throws about 8 punches, again is almost constantly backtracking trying to stay out of range. It's impossible to think Loma does better in the last minute.

    The only part of that round that is really up for debate is the middle minute when Loma tries to actually box with Lopez and opens up a bit, I think this section of the round is debatable as to who got the better of it.

    I'm just not giving a round to someone who spends the vast majority of the round being negative.

    We don't need to discuss timestamps or slo mo, because that's not relevant here, but if we were in the same venue watching this round, me with a pint of lager, you with an appletini, I'd ask you after a minute who you think is winning the round so far, then again after the second minute, and again at the end.

    You being unable to accept this is a close round is because you're biased. I said it's close, but not one I'm scoring for Loma.
     
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  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Screw it. I'll take your challenge just to shut u up

    https://youtu.be/e--kj3Uh7xs?t=1186

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    Left uppercut splits the guard

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    jab to the body and left hook around the guard. Right Hand gets blocked

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    right to the body

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    left hook around the guard.

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    Right Hand to the body set up by a jab to raise Lomas guard.

    https://youtu.be/e--kj3Uh7xs?t=1328

    Counter left around the guard

    https://youtu.be/e--kj3Uh7xs?t=1339

    oh boy another jab to the body

    https://youtu.be/e--kj3Uh7xs?t=1349

    counter uppercut followed by a right
     
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  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If the timestamps mess up I'll just give you the time from the round if I need to go there
     
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  5. steviebruno

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    My dumb ass took the bait went on youtube, and watched the round on 0.25 speed. Right away, I saw Teo land that first left uppercut and I knew dude was full of it.

    Even the blows that Loma blocks partially land and seem to drive him halfway across the ring. How would any reasonable judge score this round for Loma?

    It's not even debatable. Dude took one round that he could possibly argue for Loma and made it a point of a contention in an 8-4 type of fight.

    Crazy.
     
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  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah fr. Slow motion makes it seem slightly closer but Lopez was too active for loma
     
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  7. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    Okay you’re clearly trolling - the way I’m replying is messy? I always respond to your points, you pick and choose and ignore. Now you appear to have a reading comprehension issue.

    again your run of the round is just complete delusion and not factual. This is not what happens.

    I’m not repeating myself, this is what actually happens in the round;
    Please leave the discussion for me and Markus, at least he has the decency to counter the pertinent points. You are going in circles
     
  8. MismatchHypejob

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    How do you timestamp the clips like you’ve done?

    The first clip, this hits Lomas elbow dude. How the hell can you confidently say that “split the guard”?! What?! The shots Loma lands in this round are clear. This isn’t a shot that looks to land , real or not.

    Second clip, that is a throwaway jab to land for the follow up combo that all is blocked. I’m not even sure if this jab hits the midsection looks like most is blocked by Loma elbow here. It’s a completely minor shot that looks blocked but for your benefit I’ll say it lands.

    Re the second clip, you’re saying a left hook lands? What you can’t see anything at all? You’re straight up bs’ing here.

    Third clip..dude come on lmao

    Fourth clip, slapping is not a clean punch

    Fifth clip, commentator says right hand, it hits his elbow..dude

    Sixth , jab, you are correct here cleanest punch of the round from Lopez LOL

    The uppercut right hand does not land at the end you are literally lying. First of all you can’t see Lomas head move from the uppercut because it hits his chest, the right hand grazes Lomas chin from another replay. You are saying he lands an uppercut because you want it to land because you have something for Teo for some reason which I will prove below:

    Now I’m going to test your dishonesty. Here is the uppercut Lopez supposedly lands at the end:

    go to 22:40, if you’re going to say this somehow lands then this conversation stops here. Timothy teo ball sucking Bradley states “perfectly placed uppercut here “ doesn’t even touch Lomas chin.
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    There is not one punch from Lopez in this round that is cleaner than any one of these shots that Loma lands below (I can timestamp):

    Chronological order
    3 jabs
    Right hook
    Jab like left hand
    Solid jab
    Jab counter

    all of these punches clearly land and aren’t debatable whether they land (not to say the punches you raised as landing by Lopez as debatable, because they’re not).

    The best thing Lopez lands in this round is that body shot jab before the missed combo at the end. And even that shot is inferior to all those shots landed by Loma.

    Clear as day Loma round. Clean punching is what it is all about. Loma did that
     
  9. MismatchHypejob

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    Shut up you fool, read my previous post and enlighten yourself
     
  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Absolutely deluded :risas3:

    Are you even looking at the right clips ? Please timestamp and show specifically what you're referring too, because what you're describing can’t be my timestamps

    And stop. Half those shots were clean and the others were glancing, not that it matters. It really doesn't matter how it lands. If it connects on legal areas its a scoring shot minus the gloves and judges also look for who's setting the pace
     
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  11. MarkusFlorez99

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    He won't be enlightened he'd get brain cancer from reading your nonesense
     
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  12. steviebruno

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    Slow motion erases the concept of punch impact and turns it into an amateur style scoring system. The judges probably heard Teo's thudding punches, saw Loma being backed up each time he was touched, and scored those as more effective than Loma's pawing blows.

    Teo landed more punches in round 6, though. He also landed the heavier blows and also was flashier with some eye catching shoulder roll counters, even if they didn't land clean. He controlled the distance and backed Loma off with that counter uppercut each time he tried to step in. He also got the last word by landing the two power shots to close the round.

    I don't see any way to give that round to Loma using professional scoring criteria, written or unwritten.
     
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  13. lufcrazy

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    Unable to counter a single point I made.

    Have fun troll.
     
  14. MismatchHypejob

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    You’ve ignored all my points cherrypicking your own. I’m just going to leave this here , because not only are you deluded you’re just extremely dishonest:

    This is the uppercut you boldly claims land from Lopez. And you refuse to even answer whether it lands or not. The fact you haven’t bothered answering this shows your dishonest af:
    https://imgur.com/a/Gz6QMUq


    Neither that uppercut or the follow up right hand land. You seem to believe they do, key word believe (you’re seriously living in your own world)

    same punches real time:
    https://imgur.com/a/6cxRQMS

    The so called left uppercut break through the guard LMAO. Weak ass left hook to Lomas elbow:
    https://imgur.com/a/BL7vPRa

    Youve applied the same very poor biased judgement to all those other timestamps. You’ve made yourself look incredibly stupid, and unwilling to accept it when you’re wrong. These punches do not land.

    just one of the many clean punches landed by Loma in round 6:
    https://imgur.com/a/GfV8qju
    Straight left (unclear if lands, right hook clearly lands)

    another clean jab:
    https://imgur.com/a/XXijMFZ

    again I’m not going to timestamp all these punches for you if you can’t accept some basic reality of those punches from Lopez not landing. Otherwise I’ll be wasting my time going in circles
     
  15. MismatchHypejob

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    @MarkusFlorez99 anyone watchig these timestamps can see you’re full of ****, I know you’re not even going to acknowledge that those punches from Lopez don’t land.