Scoring Loma's Losses

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by lufcrazy, Nov 18, 2023.


What should the 3 results have been?

  1. Loma goes 3-0

    22 vote(s)
    17.6%
  2. Loma goes 2-1

    56 vote(s)
    44.8%
  3. Loma goes 1-2

    28 vote(s)
    22.4%
  4. Loma goes 0-3

    19 vote(s)
    15.2%
  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Well that's not a scorecard. And that's nothing you've mentioned previously on this thread.

    That's interesting though, the fact that 5/7 of those rounds we agree on. Meaning we probably agree on 10/12 of the total rounds, so if I'm delusional in a fantasy world it speaks volumes for your own state of delusion.

    You have explained yourself how Lopez can win rounds 2 and 12.

    So out of a 12 round fight you only wrongly disagree on one round. 11/12 rounds you can see my point of view.

    The 1 round we disagree on I've explained quite clearly why I gave the round to Lopez. You've failed to refute anything other than try showing some timestamps and talking about 0.25x to review if a punch landed cleanly or not, neither of which count as any kind of refutation since rounds get scored in real time.
     
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  2. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    You are seriously equating a punch to the head or midsection with an uppercut to the chest?
     
  3. steviebruno

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    Are punches to the chest scoring blows or not? Just asking.
     
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  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That uppercut literally went through the guard and just on his chin. Or his chest, hard to see, but it still landed which is why loma backed up as you heard a thudding shot.

    You can see Lomas right side reverberated just after the shot connects. It landed. It was a scoring shot. Irrefutable evidence

    https://i.imgur.com/MS70MoT.mp4
     
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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Body shots can put people down. Stop the delusion
     
  6. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    I’m not surprised you couldn’t work out that meant Loma won 7 rounds.

    No. I explained that it was hard to see what was landed in round 2 because of the angles/fast punches/use of elbows to block.

    I then countered by saying you actually have to look at the punches closely both real time and slow motion to see what lands and judge impact. Something you refused to debate because you instead just choose to believe Lopez won the round (despite having no idea what actually lands)
    Again refer to comment above. Your refusal to engage in anything relevant landed in round 6 means you don’t have an argument or the foundations of it are weak. And you’re constant repeating of “rounds aren’t scored in slow mo” is all you’ve got despite me answering it for the nth time
     
  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    MismatchHypejob has a degree in yapping
     
  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    You never before stayed which rounds you scored up who.

    Exactly, it can go to either man.

    No, that's not a counter. Looking at in slow mo means nothing, rounds are scored in real time.

    I'm not debating slow motion timestamps. If you want to do that nake a thread on that. I'm debating the scoring of Lomas 3 losses. Even in this very post you've tried to justify using slow mo to score a round lmao.
     
  9. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    You and @MarkusFlorez99 can stop pretending that you didn’t think that uppercut hit Loma’s chin.

    you two are just dishonest scumbags man, can’t even have a real debate with you too.

    An uppercut that hits the chest (and one that hit at such an angle) I don’t consider as equivalent to a body shot to the midsection/side or headshot. In this context, Lomas jabs to Lopez head are cleaner shots
     
  10. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    You’re not debating anything. Frankly your opinion is irrelevant as you cannot have an in depth objective discussion. You’ve just went off on one again, you can’t comprehend my replies. Full on idiot
     
  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Boxing judges and true scoring criteria don't care what you think.
     
  12. steviebruno

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    So it hit now, then? Cool.

    Which do think is a more effective blow:

    A) A pawing jab that fails to snap Teo's head back.

    B) A counter uppercut to the chest that causes Loma's upper body to recoil and drives him back.
     
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  13. MismatchHypejob

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    these land according to you.
    https://imgur.com/a/Gz6QMUq
    https://imgur.com/a/6cxRQMS
    https://imgur.com/a/BL7vPRa

    an uppercut to the jaw (lol), a right hand and an uppercut that “breaks the guard”. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence can see these punches don’t land clean
     
  14. MarkusFlorez99

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  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    So you only vehemently disagree on 1 round out of 12 with a full on idiot, bit worrying that.

    I've explained why Lopez got round 6 on my card, you were completely unable to refute it.