Scoring the 1st and the 6th last night

I gave round 1 a 9-9 though I knew Clottey was ****ed on that and would get a 10-8 from almost every judge. 9-9 is rare, but I feel Clottey won that round outside of that knockdown and that he was off balance and not seriously hurt so I gave him the 9-9.

Round 6 is the one when Clottey was on the ropes right? Well Clottey blocked alot but he was very inactive so in the case where neigher guy landed much then I have to give it to Cotto for activity.


Round 10 on Leddermans card for Cotto was what was ****ed up. Clottey clearly outlanded him and landed the better shots that round. Infact on the punchstats he had more than double. The commentators made a big deal about a counter Cotto landed in an exchange but I am sorry 1 punch is not enough to win the round, overall Clottey won that round.

 

If you can hit a boxer real good for most of the round, and not put him down, and then the other guy lands a punch and puts the fighter who was winning the round down, 10-8 is the score, not 10-9. The 6th round of the fight was only 10-9. If we start giving out 10-8 rounds and the rounds we are scoring look like Clottey-Cotto's 6th round, then boxing will have an even bigger problem scoring fights.

 

How can you call yourself a fan of the sport and not understand the scoring system.

It's the 10-Point Must System

As in, the WINNER of the round MUST score 10 points. The only way a round is 9-9 is that it scored 10-9, and the winner of the round then has a point deduction, but it's still a 10-9 round, not 9-9.. its a 10-9 on the cards, with a point deduction. The round was never 9-9..

If a guy is knocked down, but comes back to win the round clearly outside the KD, then it's usually almost always a 10-9 for the guy who KD the other guy.

A KD doesn't not equal one point, it just usually does. Thus a round with a KD doesn't need to be 10-8, or two knockdowns equal 10-7... but the other guy better do a LOT to not have those scores put on paper.

What you can't have is a 9-9 round. Ever.

 

That's true...

Judges do not ever write 9-9 on their scorecards. In the the 10-point must system, the fighter who wins the round always and must receive 10 points. Ten points, no more, no less.

However, if the fighter who won the round receives a point deduction during the same round, the ref will instruct the judges to subtract the point from the round. The application of this penalty is not computed until the end of the fight. So while strictly speaking, it's true that there is no such thing as a 9-9 round -- effectively that's what happens after the point is deducted.

But let's keep things clear. If one fighter is knocked down and then comes back to clearly dominate the round, judges will have three reasonable choices:

10-8 in favor of the fighter scoring the KD
10-9 in favor of the fighter scoring the KD
10-10, an even round.

But they'll never write down 9-9. Anyone who does clearly does not understand the literally named "10-point must system."

 

On the first one, the only correct way to score it was 10-8. In some EXTREME circumstances, where one fighter is completely and utterly dominating the entire round until the knockdown, a 10-9 in favor of the fighter who scored the knockdown is excusable, but that's it. The only time I can remember scoring a round like that is Round 4 of Adamek-Cunningham.

Also, you shouldn't really score a round 10-8 without a knockdown unless he actually has the other guy hurt. While it was a dominant round for Cotto, 3/4 of his punches got blocked and Clottey was clearly never hurt (other than his knee), so I don't think that one's a 10-8 either.

 

FWIW, 9-9 isn't allowed without a penalty. If you're scoring it 9-9 and there's no deduction, then you really should have scored it 10-10. Just a technicality.

 

:thinkhuh, i did not know that. good to know in the future

 

google " ten point must ". Seems lots of folks here don't seem to know what it means. Check the second link I give in this thread. It is based on an interview given by the judge that scored for Clottey.

[url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=148076[/url]

 

The term "10-point must system" is mentioned before every fight yet some armchair experts don't even know what it means, therefore don't even know how rounds are scored atsch .

 

A 9-9 round is only from a point deduction. Fighter A wins the round but gets a point deducted for low blows or whatever, so it goes from 10-9 to 9-9.

If you think round 1 was even then score it 10-10.

That's what a judge, infamously, did in Moorer-Holyfield 1 in the 2nd when Moorer went down.

 

To be honest, with the name "10 point must" it should be pretty obvious but I had a ****ing brain fart i guess atsch

 

round 5 and 11 were close rounds..the rest are easy to score
round 11 are clearly even rounds