Scoring Ward-Kovalev using more of the 10 available points per round

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by qwertyblahblah, Nov 21, 2016.


  1. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No I didn't watch the fight again. I just scored it with a different scoring system :) I like others have mentioned before that boxing shouldn't be scored on the pretty much rounds system that it currently is. That doesn't reflect how clearly the winner won. More of the available 10 points should be used to score a round. That indicates the degree the winner won the round by, and the total score would then better reflect who controlled and won the whole fight, rather than who won more rounds.

    So: winning a round slightly is 10-9, a clear win 10-8, a dominant round 10-7, and a round in which one guy thoroughly outclasses or beats up the other 10-6. In fact, I don't have to follow the official scoring convention, I'm going to score every fight I score like this now.

    Here's how I have Ward-Kovalev...

    1 Kovalev 10-8
    2 Kovalev 10-7
    3 Kovalev 10-9
    4 Ward 10-9
    5 Ward 10-8
    6 Ward 10-8
    7 Ward 10-8
    8 Ward 10-8
    9 Ward 10-8
    10 Kovalev 10-8
    11 Ward 10-8
    12 Kovalev 10-9

    So 111-107 Ward. I consider the 3rd, 4th, and 12th the close, swing rounds that could've gone either way, the rest I'm confident each guy definitely deserved. I really think Ward had figured out Kovalev's attack and was outthinking him and controlling the fight from the 5th through the 9th, even if he wasn't significantly outlanding Kovalev. The number of rounds won was so close that we should have to dig deeper in scoring what happened to separate the two. How would anyone else score the fight using this system?
     
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  2. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Hey, how does the fight scored if you use a scoring system where you have to calculate exactly how long you were mounting an offense? Like, if you were to say Kovalez controlled x amount of seconds of round y, how does the fight get scored in your opinion?

    Let's think of other fun ways to score fights!
     
  3. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    are you a troll? i really cant be ****ed checking your history to find out but this reeks of it.
    "hey guys x fighter won if you dont score it the way boxing is and has been scored since the Queensberry rules..

    it reminds me of facebook after may v pac "listen ill be honest i have no idea how to score boxing... BUT PAC WON"
     
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  4. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not the first person to suggest the scoring system should be refined and more of the available 10 points used. Fights that end up with close scores often weren't close. I'm not saying Ward-Kovalev wasn't very close, just that attempting to differentiate them by scoring how clear a round's were won might show that one guy deserved the fight by more than a point. It's a worthy point of discussion.
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Not sure how that's better..
     
  6. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Nice try but stupid idea, it just make things even more subjective. Btw I score round 2 for Kovalev 10-2
     
  7. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    I agree with your score for the rest of the rounds, Kovalev edge by 1 point
     
  8. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    An extra point to whichever boxer can hold their breath longest between rounds. Good for the championship rounds this one...
     
  9. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    This is the stupidest thread in the history of ESB.
     
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  11. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Some merit on first glance but... win the opening three rounds 10-6 and you've effectively won the fight if you just gets on your bike for the rest of the fight and lose each subsequent round 10-9. And it would become commonplace for fighters to win bouts in which they lost the majority of rounds. Can't see this as being a better solution.
     
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  12. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, on continuing to look back at Kovalev-Ward rounds a scoring change like this isn't a significant improvement. There would sometimes be controversy, often fight-changing, over whether a round should be 10-8 vs 10-9 or 10-8 vs 10-7. I do think boxing scoring has to reflect the degree a round was won by though. There's often a world of difference between 10-9 rounds, and a fighter who dominates 5 rounds and controls the fight as a whole as much as his opponent ends up having to be the clear loser. Maybe there's a better format than what I suggested, but I don't think mine is any worse than the current method.
     
  13. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Its not and leaves more open room for bad scoring . The scoring system is simple as is and its still difficult to get decent judging in most fights ,it would be a train wreck and trying to justify a judge giving a 7 /10 rnd based on bias to steer a decision would be a huge disaster . The TS himself shows how to do this with his proposed system . lol
     
  14. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can accept that much. I like the concept, but it gives more power to the judges and assumes their absolute competence and understanding, not to mention integrity.
     
  15. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    The "what does floored mean to you" thread beats it. Watching MW and his 2 alts vote for his definition against the rest of mankind is ESB's Mount Everest of stupidity.