Scully " Hopkins Faked the Injury "

Scully either trains or trained Dawson. Can't take Scully's word on this, sorry. Scully has an opinion just like us, nothing more.

 

First of all, no disrespect to anyone, but this is Dawson's trainer of course he's going to say something like this. Now, I'm a Bhops fan, but wasn't he fighting with one arm vs Echols? Of course, we talkin prime Hopkins. Hopkins basically UNDERESTIMATED Dawson and I knew Hopkins would have problems. They should have a rematch, but no freakin way on ppv. Win or lose Hopkins should retire. He might be a smarter fighter than Chad, but Chads time is now and I dont see anyone outboxing him. Only way to beat Chad is infighting like Ward does or knocking him out like Cloud does, but dont see that happening. I think Chad is more than Bhops can chew and would of preffered him at 168. Hopkins is great but he aint no Hagler or Monzon..

 

I thought he faked it. B Hop was getting owned.

 

I can't believe Hopkins was so scared of a guy like Dawson that he took the fight, trained for months on end, and then faked an injury to get out of the situation just two rounds in when he wasn't doing badly at all.


All injuries are different, Hopkins is old, I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt considering his in-ring antics have never gone so far, and it was better to fight another day than risk your health fighting with one arm.

 

I felt he faked the low blow by Calzaghe as well.

Ex-cons are not known for their honesty

 

Hop wasn't doing too badly but with the way things were going thought Dawson had his number and B Hop probably realised it too. Dawson seemed too strong and determined for him.

Totally give props to B hop for having such a long career but really thought he faked it to find a way out. If anything I don't think B Hop should get the benefit of the doubt because of his history of trying it on before.

 

If Bernard was getting owned by Chad in those two rounds, then I would say that Jean Pascal would have stopped Bernard in the first fight given the fact that he knocked him down twice. You can't just look at less than six minutes of a fight, see a guy on the back foot and taking one left hand counter and go immediately to say that he was finding a way out... Damn, I don't even say that Tyson was finding a way out of his fight with Holyfield in the rematch so please don't say that what you wish for is what it was to be.

 

Not sure how much weight it holds, but I am a advocate supporter of Ross Enamait ([url]www.rosstraining.com[/url]). He is a boxer trainer/conditioning coach and he speaks very highly of scully and b-hop so while I will give Bhop the benefit of the doubt, this is interesting.

 

Sure, will never bet against B hop and I know he can turn fights around. But he did seem like he was getting owned and Chad Dawson seemed liked he wasn't taking any of the dirty tricks that B hop was throwing at him.

I didn't wish for anything. Wouldn't have cared who won either way. Actually, if I had to choose who I wanted to win before the fight, it would have been B hop mainly due to his age. First time I saw Chad fight and he seemed like he really really wanted it. It did seem B Hop faked it as well. The way B Hop fell thought he made too much of a meal outta it and couldn't see how he so suppose to have injured himself so bad. Look like a soft fall.

Also, I have to say when B Hop fell, usually when you are falling backwards, you will try to put your arms out behind you to soften your fall. B Hop never did that and it seemed to me like he wanted to exaggerate how bad the throw was ... just don't look right.

 

He wasn't getting owned; they were close ugly rounds. He wasn't intimidated by him if he wasn't intimidated by Pascal's knockdowns. When Dawson pushed, Hopkins was trying to hold, since they were up close, and clinch. Pushing off with leverage towards the middle of his torso, Hopkins didn't really have time to do a 180 and land on his arms. I doubt he'd fake landing on his elbow like that. He's exaggerated injuries before, but never to the extent he'd waste his efforts and tarnish his legacy. We have to give him the benefit of the doubt as a 46 year old man who got dropped on his back.

 

Owned is probably the wrong word. It was really scrappy. But as far as I can see Hopkins was using every trick in his book and nothing was working.

I couldn't see how Hopkins could win the fight since Dawson looked so much stronger and Hopkins just couldn't do a lot. I was looking forward to see how Hopkins could turn the tide as he is usually able to do but that fall just looked all wrong.

I think you are getting me wrong. I didn't expect him to turn 180 to land on his arms but if you get thrown and are off balance, the natural reaction is to put your arms back to break your fall. The fact that he didn't do anything of that sort and showed he wasn't off balance. If anything he more like threw himself back to exaggerate the fall.

Even that exaggerated fall, it still looked like a soft fall to me and I thought he was just up to his usual trick to try to get a bit of time. I never thought it would end the fight nor did the commentators either. Real surprise for most people and it smelt like a cop out to me.

 

I am NOT giving Hopkins the benefit of the doubt!

He wanted out of the fight.

He avoided Dawson for years.

Finally agreed to face him after getting an inflated sense of confidence from the Pascal fights.

And then quickly lost that confidence after 1 1/2 rounds.

Hopkins should retire ASAP.

 

Pavlik= a deliberate fighter who's aggression you can use against him.
Pascal= an athletic guy with speed, but a guy with no fundamentals to create his openings, which is why he runs around jumping in with ******ed aimless flurries.

Dawson = athletic, quick, fundamentally sound, has the ability to create his openings and utilize his advantages.

Once Hopkins realized it could potentially be more tricky than anticipated, he did what he did in the Allen fight. Hopkins only shot against Dawson was to get inside and mug him, to drag him into a foul filled affair where he breaks up his rhythm and gets away from his advantages, that was looking increasingly more unlikely, so he milked his fall for everything it was worth. Just like against Allen he could of continued, but no, he wanted to regroup and come back on another day with a more clear idea of what he needed to do.

I lost a lot of respect for Hopkins when he did this. I used to believe him when he used to say you wanna take it into the alley and have a street fight I wont complain to the ref, but yet there he was play acting against Roy Jones (rematch), and then this with Dawson. He aint the guy he likes to portray himself to be.