Sean O'Grady vs. Ray Mancini

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  1. Danmann

    Danmann Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sean OGrady had father who was promoter. Look at who Mancini fought, and who he beat or gave tough fights to. Then look at O'Grady. No comparison.
     
  2. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I just don't see O'Grady having the durability to outlast Ray in a war.

    The Kenty performance was very impressive. Regardless whether Kenty was sick or not, it was still an impressive performance. But stylewise, Ray was a lot different than Kenty.

    O'Grady was able to bull, and batter Kenty, but he wouldn't push Mancini back like that.

    I see O'Grady doing well for awhile, but getting worn down and eventually stopped.
     
  3. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    O`Grady by close decision.
     
  4. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    At the time, I thought that O'Grady would punch mancini silly. Still think that.
     
  5. Curtis Lowe

    Curtis Lowe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The O'Grady that fought Verderosa had seen his best days go by and was over the hill.

    When you turn pro at age 15 it is easy to be burned out by the mid 20s.
     
  6. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    By the same token, Greg Haugen dominated, decked and stopped Mancini in 6..and O'Grady was a better puncher than Greg.
     
  7. ThinBlack

    ThinBlack Boxing Addict banned

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    True, but also he may have overstepped his boundaries with the right fighter.

    Greg caught Ray at the tail end.Prime Ray would've given a much better effort.And won.
     
  8. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    O'Grady beat exactly one fighter of any note, who was apparently sick when he fought him and STILL took him 15 exciting rounds. Look at that fight and you'll see Kenty has no legs whatsoever. He stood there and absorbed punishment or backed up in a straight line, catching more punishment along the way.

    I cannot envision any scenario that makes any sense and has O'Grady as the eventual winner.
     
  9. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ray Mancini didn't exactly roll through murderer's row. Jose Luis Ramirez is the only really accomplished fighter Mancini defeated unless you count a shopworn Bobby Chacon, who was a junior lightweight.

    Watching O'Grady-Watt, I have to believe he would be on equal footing with Boom Boom.
     
  10. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're overrating Mancini again...he was never as accomplished a fighter as Haugen. Greg would have been too smart for him at any stage of his career.
     
  11. ThinBlack

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    I don't know, I always felt Ray was underrated.But I give Greg his props, he was underrated as well,but I still kind of feel that Ray would beat him in a good fight.
     
  12. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you're saying Haugen was just a better fighter than Mancini. that's not an outlandish opinion (although I disagree). But you use the word accomplished and that implies resume.

    Haugen basically had Jimmy Paul (very good fighter for a short while), and what I would call a stalemate trilogy with Pazienza (nothing to get too excited about), and a split with Camacho (who a washed up Mancini ran close 2 years earlier).

    Mancini had a near shutout against Ramirez, Frias (nothing special admittedly), and Kim (who was a hard man). Mancini gets no credit for giving Arguello all he wanted? I couldn't envision Haugen (or O'Grady) doing the same. His losses to Bramble were nothing to be ashamed of either. Bramble is probably better than anyone Haugen fought until Camacho (I discount the Whitaker fight as contributing to Haigen's legacy because he got shut out).
    Thie fistic wizard Vinny Pazienza gave Haugen everything he wanted but Haugen would be "too smart" for Mancini?

    I think Mancini would stop O'Grady late in a good fight and I think he'd decision Haugen in a good fight (prime for prime).
     
  13. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    well, JCC never quite pitched a shutout vs Ramirez..in fact, it was one of his less dominant victories..so was mancini a better fighter than Chavez due to how he beat Ramirez, or maybe Ramirez wasn't quite at his best vs Mancini that night? To continue, Rosario was only able to decision ramirez...and I know he didn't shut him out like Mancini did...and in the rematch he got stopped by Ramirez...so do you think Boom Boom was better than Rosario? Personally, I think Rosario would have ko'ed mancini. see how many twists and turns we have here?
     
  14. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    the haugen that beat Paul would have been too tough AND too savvy for Ray IMO.
     
  15. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Prime Mancini would have beaten Haugen.

    Both Haugen, and Mancini would have beaten O'Grady.