Second thoughts on Wilder vs Fury

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  1. juppity

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  2. Mendoza

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    If Fury presses it too much, an early KO loss can happen. I can agree there. However I doubt he will.

    I took a close look at Wilder. He 's technically poor, has a low guard, and seems to punch himself out a bit quicker than most heavies. When Wilder has his gloves high to block, he's basally saying I'm not punching back, and Fury can open up through the gloves or to his body as Wilder has no short counter punches.

    On the other had Wilder has good speed, great range, and obviously top-end power. The accuracy, however, is not there, as he swung many times and hit air. Fury isn't a puncher, so Wilder can afford to go for broke often.

    Fury did land some clean shots, without committing much on the punches, and IMO had Wilder and backing off more than once with swelling below one eye.

    If I'm Fury's trainer, I get him in better shape and tell him to move his feet and use the left jab as much as possible.

    The judging on this fight sucked. Well, the third judge who had it 115-111 for Wilder sucked which is why it was pulled a draw.

    PS: Wilder being heavier is not wise. He has pin legs, and it will slow him down. He needs speed and stamina here. Fury has more energy in the later rounds

    The rematch is going to be a clash of styles. My guess is Fury wins a cleaner decision. Wilder has yet to beat a top opponent in his prime. He's getting a second chance.
     
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  4. Mendoza

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    I want the winner to fight Joshua next. If they fight a third time, to me its ducking Joshua and a chance to become the #1 man in the eyes of the people.
     
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  6. Mendoza

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    My official pick is Fury via UD. During the fight if Fury really goes for the KO and fights stupid, then I think Wilder will catch him and win by stoppage. Make sense?
     
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    It did confuse me a bit at the beginning but now it makes sense , thanks
     
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  8. sid

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    Whatever happens in 2nd fight Fury will be stronger than the first one.
    Fury might do a Cunningham on Wilder but I can see Fury getting off the floor to win.
     
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  9. Mendoza

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    He did that in the first fight with Wilder. Either Fury has a better chin that most think or Wilder's power is a bit over rated as he has cherry picked the non-puncher's, the old and the slow outside of Fury for his entire career. Could be a bit of both.
     
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  10. Dubblechin

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    Fury hasn't done a Cunningham to anyone in seven years.
     
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    Wilder dropped Fury twice on a bad night. And his power is overrated now? (LOL)

    How many times does Wilder have to drop Tyson Fury in these two fights for his power not to be overrated?

    When Wilder knocks out Fury, becomes the Lineal World champion, and has knockout wins over every man he's stepped in the ring with, let's talk again about how his power is overrated.
     
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  12. Dance84

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    Exactly ! This upcoming fight is a great measuring stick to meaaure his power against other all time heavy hitters at heavyweight.
     
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  13. Bustajay

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    Don’t get upset at me but I think this looks like GGG / Canelo 2 where GGG needed to change up like Fury and fails to deliver. Granted GGG stayed on his feet all night unlike Fury.

    If Wilder weighs in around 227 lbs or higher he gets the KO
    I worry when Wilder is weighing in under 215:(
    Wilder by KO under 9 rounds is my official pick.:headbash
     
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  14. sid

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    Got to take into account Fury was not 100% in first fight he will be stronger this time you can bet on that.
     
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  15. Dubblechin

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    On the contrary, I thought Fury fought the best fight of his career that night. Certainly better than his fight with Wlad.

    Subconsciously, people seem to acknowledge that in all their posts. They keep writing that Fury has to "fight the same way he did last time" or he's going to get knocked out.

    They know that was a great performance by Fury.

    Fury had a whole year to prepare for Wilder. He had two tuneups while Wilder sat on the shelf. Tyson was playing Sweet Home Alabama as his entrance music before one or two and laughing and having fun. Fury was the sharper of the two the night they fought. Wilder was rusty and off. Fury was on a roll.

    This time, Fury's dumped his trainer. In his last fight, even though he was in great shape, he was badly cut and didn't have any power to stop his opponent (because he's not a power puncher). That scared him, too. So now he's putting on more weight. He's not on any roll. He can't rely on old excuses like "I used to be fat a year ago." He's been in shape for years now. But that didn't matter against Wallin. That first Wilder fight will go down as one of Fury's best nights. The rematch won't.

    Wilder is the one who just fought. Just scored a brutal one-punch KO.

    Honestly, if Fury lasts six rounds, I'll be surprised. I think it's going to be a very quick night. Maybe not Breazeale quick. But quick.
     
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