Seeing all the chaos of current HW division today..shows you how good Wlad was

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  1. gold

    gold Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Still 41 :fufu
     
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  2. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    What chaos?

    2020 top 10 ring rankings would beat any rankings under wlads reign.

    And that’s a shoot! Dig it!
     
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  3. gold

    gold Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's why old povetkin just brutally crushed the second best in 2020. That is a fact not opinion and you don't even have to dig it but you have to except it and move on. But on the bright side the division is stacked with competitive fights because they all can be beat but they can't hold prime wlads jock strap.
     
  4. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They already lost to 40 year old versions of Wlad's second tier fighters.
    Even Helenius easily took out top 10 Kovnatski.
     
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  5. chatty

    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Most of Wlads era got beat of 40 year olds in his brother too.

    Evander gave Valuev a loss in reality. Rahmn was stil ranked up until about 2008, it was that Briggs was stil relevant in the division in the mid 10s ffs despite not doing much but shouting Lets Go Champ and being comatosed by Vitali.
     
  6. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Briggs and Rahman are actually younger than Vitaly Klitschko.
    They weren't in their 40s in Wlad's era.
    Valuev vs Holyfield was a glorified exhibition in Switzerland.
     
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  7. dinovelvet

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    Whyte was never the second best. Maybe 5th best

    In Wlads era old fat James Toney was officially the 3rd best HW in the world according to Ring.

    Shot to bits non-heavy Byrd was #1 and holding a belt in 2006. Sam Peter who is Chisora level was top TWO according to Ring. .None of them would be top 5 today.

    In this era Chisora isn't good enough to rank in the top 10.
     
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  8. chatty

    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shannon Briggs was going tonfight for the WBA regular title until he got popped for PEDs, that was theee years ago, he was going to fight Haye 5 years ago, he fought Vitali for the title when he was 38 years old.

    Valuev v Evander was a world title defence, it was no exhibition, Evander was just better than Valuev even at 48.
     
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  9. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    While that is true , its also true great fighters tend to look great in a weak era. . I don't think I ever saw Wlad look like a true great as he mauled , groped , bear hugged and back humped one hapless opponent after the other.

    Guys like Fury and Joshua and winning fights legally and looking good while doing it.
     
  10. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What are you trying to prove?
    3 years ago? What? That this current era lol
    As I said Briggs and Rahman are younger than Klitschko.
    Read your own post please and try to make sense.
     
  11. chatty

    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The point is every era has old guys hanging around, some of them scoring upsets.

    You cant determine an era on the age of the guys in it, its how good they are, how good they look, what skills they possess.

    So if Povetkin Koing Whyte is looked on as this era being poor then by the same standards Wlad era was terrible with Valuev being outboxed by a much older Evander.

    The 90s must be trash by Foreman koing Moorer and Holmes schooling Mercer.

    Etc etc
     
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  12. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Valuev was a novelty fighter though.
    And Valuev Holyfield fight looked fake.
     
  13. chatty

    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was ranked 3rd in the division for a time and has wins over other champions of that era in Ruiz and Liakhovich, Chagaev only scraped past him. If anything him being a novelty fighter shows how poor the division was.
     
  14. Heavy_Hitter

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    Did you actually watch any of these fights?
    Valuev wouldn't win anything without Don King's help. Lyakovitch was already shot to **** when he fought him.
    Also, both Holyfield and Valuev did absolutely nothing in this fight. Why would Holyfield get a decision there? Just for showing up? Both just showed up to collect a paycheck.
     
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  15. The Real Lance

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    What YEAR was Toney #3, because that's how they go, he wasn't #3 for an entire ERA brainiac.

    And Byrd was not shot to bits in 2006. Good grief... there's a good reason no one takes you serious here. Were you even watching boxing in 2006!?! If so, you really are a slow learner.

    The 2000's weren't strong, but still 10 times better than what we have today.
     
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