SEMIFINALS: The All-time Heavyweight H2H Tourney: VITALI vs. ALI

Norton was stopped after sustained beatings by Foreman, Shavers, Cooner - HUGE punchers

Lewis was stopped by one punch by Rahman and Mcall

Go figure

 

:deal

 

Is there a 188 lb man in history you see knocking Lennox out?

Do you see Lennox getting floored by numerous sub-200 lb journeyman like Norton was on the way up?

 

Lewis was floored by good right hands and someone like Haye could take Lewis out with a well timed right hand.

Did you not see Haye rock Valuev?

Didnt Cunningham drop Fury on his ass despite the massive weight/size difference?

GTFOH with that weight BS, thats got nothing to do with this argument.

Norton was stopped by PUNCHERS, Lewis was stopped by nobodies.

 

You really are a ******

Liston would beat the brains out of Vitali.


when will you get it into that skull of yours

weight dont make you great

 

its too wild for someone like you to understand

but when you face other good/great fighters you wont always look good.

But when you make a career out of fighting bums (Vitali), then obviously your going to look good.

Since your so obsessed with weight and size, why didnt Vitali destroy someone like Byrd (a former mw) within a couple of rounds.

Surely with Vitalis so called punch power, size, iron chin and Byrds feather fists, Vitali would have walked through him?

Maybe Vitali isnt as good as you make him out to be, or wish he were.

 

So if one loses to Lewis that means one loses to Ali? That's quite a theory you have there, considering Lewis would absolutely destroy Ali in a mismatch.

 

Liston has zero chance against Vitali, Wlad, Bowe, Lewis etc. etc. Do I need to go on?

 

I saw all of those fights. Realize you've lost the argument, and you've admitted it yourself. I'll ignore the nonsense about weight not mattering.

Nevermind that, even as a cruiserweight, Haye came in to the ring the same size as Norton and is a good 20 lbs heavier than the example I asked for. Haye is one of the most explosive and powerful cruiserweights of the past 25 years.

Was Garcia?

Your first reaction was to mention a fighter who was clearly more powerful and a better puncher to knock out Lennox than the one who knocked out Norton. You've admitted yourself that Lennox has a better chin.

Otherwise, you'd have simply picked Garcia or a lesser puncher to do the same thing to Lennox as he did to Norton. You could've picked 100 names that a fighter with a bad chin would get knocked down or out by.

Instead, you come back with Haye, who hits hard enough to shake an iron-chinned giant he was giving up 100 lbs to (you said so yourself) and who has a superior knockout record to Garcia. You've beaten your own argument.

Suppose I am, in fact, a ****** as you suggest. What's it say that you can't even debate with a ****** without defeating your own argument?

 

Liston TKO Vitali by cuts

 

if weight was what counted then Butterbean would be no1 ATG.

some dumb theory but I guess that would appeal to the racists.

 

'simple' was your word, so you are dissing yourself. good start.

no they don't, no one has claimed near teenage ali was the prime one, ONLY YOU have it that way. Noone in the history of this forum has ever tried to argue that a near teen was the prime version of a boxer. Its YOUR argument alone. defend your argument or give up, but don't pretend its not yours now its been debunked. do that for BOTH your points, the one above too.

thx.

 

Weight only matters to these people when it suits their purpose.

You can tell most of them dont know sh** about boxing, especially that Rock fella.

 

No, you dont need to go on, because i've realised why i put you on ignore in the first place :good

 

You really are full of **** and i was right about you from the start, troll.

You mentioned WEIGHT, that an XYZ fighter weighing so and so cant knock out a heavy, so i gave you an example. David Haye and then you chicken out by saying i picked a hard puncher. Get over it, your size theory holds no weight whatsoever.

Tommo/Glover....why dont you just get a life? or do us all a favour and go throw yourself off a cliff?