Send in an ATG to beat Prime Liston (mid to late 50's version)

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  1. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So what? You somehow failed to comprehend anything i said and are the epitome of everything i said. You may as well have a sign labelled "AGENDA" hanging off such posts because that's the only possible description for such an angle.
     
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  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    No I am agreeing with you. Nothing he did before 1958 should count. Everything before then Sonny was learning. He was turning a corner, he had rematches and beat the much smaller Marshall back a couple of times but he wasn’t where he was in 1960. Before 1956 He’d only been pro a couple of years then he went away for almost as long, probably undoing everything and having to start again in 1958.
     
  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fair enough.

    Everything counts in one way or another but we've got to try and keep it in context.
     
  4. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh just fvck off! You said nothing was written in the press about it. I provide proof to the contrary, and now you want to see film of the fight when you know no such thing exists. Even if I do retrieve footage, you're going to back peddle (yet again) and ask for a time machine and ticket to the fight!
     
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  5. Grapefruit

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    Ali
    Holmes
    Lennox
    Holyfield
    Would all have a favourable chance here

    I'd love to see Tyson vs liston, they'd both be scared shitless of one a other
     
  6. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Liston feared no man!
     
  7. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is probably gonna take prime Ali or Holmes to beat him.
     
  8. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Except the crazy man named Ali...who was a poet and a prophet!
     
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  9. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the Holyfield-beating Bowe would have knocked Sonny all over the ring.
     
  10. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I agree. Some fighters can't shake perception even when it isn't accurate. Joe Frazier for example gets knocked for getting up off the canvas and beating Oscar Bonevena in only his 11th pro fight.
     
  11. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    That is a good fight. Evander brings alot to the table. So does Liston. Sonny would be the hardest puncher Holyfield ever faced. Sonny's Lefthook could alter your life in a flash.
     
  12. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    It seemed to be the easy journalistic hook but I doubt Liston had fear of Ali. The bowties popping up around him might have spooked Liston. Malcom had been down in Miami Beach with Clay so long he was asked to leave by the promotor.
     
  13. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think both Liston and Foreman were creeped out by the Muslims (or, the way they presented themselves at the time around Ali).
     
  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was so terrified of him that he ***** slapped him in a Casino!
     
  15. Dubblechin

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    If Vitali and Sonny fought, and both decided to quit on their stools claiming a shoulder injury, would it be a Technical Draw or a No Contest?
     
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