Send in an ATG to beat RJJ at 168

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  1. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jones peaked at super middleweight and was at his most dangerous. I look sideways at him at that point because I think he was juiced. After watching the Jones-Paz fight I had no doubt both of them were juiced to the gills.

    Ezzard Charles beats him. So doesn't the iron-chinned Greb. I stand with McGrain in mentioning both, and Lloyd Marshall too. You know who else I'd seriously consider off the top of my head? Artie Towne and Bert Lytell.
     
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  2. janitor

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  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Lots of good suggestions but im not convinced about one of them.
     
  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I'd favor Roy against anyone at that weight.
     
  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    This probably won't be a popular choice around here, but I think Andre Ward could have gotten it done. And I think there are points in time where guys like Archie and Ezzard could have done it as well, going off the assumption that they could have made 168 if/when needed.
     
  6. Rumsfeld

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    That would definitely have been an interesting fight if it happened in 2002 at 168. Would have been, in my opinion, a much better match-up than we saw in 1993 or 2010.
     
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  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Except for the fact that by 2002 Jones hadn't made 168 in 6 years and was well beyond his prime.

    Prime 168 Jones blows Ward out of the water.
     
  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Agreed, but I was replying to a specific post. And there was talks of that fight happening at 168. In fact, RJJ said he'd meet the winner there at 168, and everyone assumed it would be Trinidad.

    Yeah. I know people like to say those sort of things whenever it comes to 168 Roy in mythical match-ups. And in a lot of cases, it probably would have been true. But I have a hard time envisioning this against Ward. He's not stopping Ward, and I doubt he outclasses him. I think Ward would frustrate him tremendously, and that many of Roy's athletic advantages would be negated by Ward's stellar positioning and ring IQ. Would Ward win? Not necessarily, but I believe he could, and at the worst, he'd make a competitive fight of it.

    It's easy to point at all of the physical advantages Roy would have in terms of speed and reflexes, but it's also easy to overlook the fact that Ward held numerous advantages over Roy as well.
     
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  9. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The small lightheavies fall in 168 wt limit. Sam Langford, Jose Torres, D. Tiger.
     
  10. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Jones at 168 was actually 178-184 in the ring if Im not mistaken.
     
  11. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's no supermiddle that could have beaten Jones. Period. 175 is a different story.
     
  12. Shades of Hughie Fury

    Shades of Hughie Fury New Member banned Full Member

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    Canelo would easily beat a prime Roy Jones at 168 (via a Goldenboy scorecard of course)