Jones peaked at super middleweight and was at his most dangerous. I look sideways at him at that point because I think he was juiced. After watching the Jones-Paz fight I had no doubt both of them were juiced to the gills. Ezzard Charles beats him. So doesn't the iron-chinned Greb. I stand with McGrain in mentioning both, and Lloyd Marshall too. You know who else I'd seriously consider off the top of my head? Artie Towne and Bert Lytell.
This probably won't be a popular choice around here, but I think Andre Ward could have gotten it done. And I think there are points in time where guys like Archie and Ezzard could have done it as well, going off the assumption that they could have made 168 if/when needed.
That would definitely have been an interesting fight if it happened in 2002 at 168. Would have been, in my opinion, a much better match-up than we saw in 1993 or 2010.
Except for the fact that by 2002 Jones hadn't made 168 in 6 years and was well beyond his prime. Prime 168 Jones blows Ward out of the water.
Agreed, but I was replying to a specific post. And there was talks of that fight happening at 168. In fact, RJJ said he'd meet the winner there at 168, and everyone assumed it would be Trinidad. Yeah. I know people like to say those sort of things whenever it comes to 168 Roy in mythical match-ups. And in a lot of cases, it probably would have been true. But I have a hard time envisioning this against Ward. He's not stopping Ward, and I doubt he outclasses him. I think Ward would frustrate him tremendously, and that many of Roy's athletic advantages would be negated by Ward's stellar positioning and ring IQ. Would Ward win? Not necessarily, but I believe he could, and at the worst, he'd make a competitive fight of it. It's easy to point at all of the physical advantages Roy would have in terms of speed and reflexes, but it's also easy to overlook the fact that Ward held numerous advantages over Roy as well.