Send in an ATG to KO Wladimir Klitschko

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  1. mcvey

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    I could just as easily say all you do is hype the victims of the

    the fighters that you DO like ,usually by concentrating on their size.

    Which great fighters don't I like?:huh
     
  2. mr. magoo

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    Absolutely.. Mike Perez was unbeaten in 21 fights and had hammered another unbeaten hopeful into a coma, nearly leading to that man's death. If Jennings taking on someone like that was supposed to be record padding or steering clear of risky propositions then I wonder what some people consider as showing bravado...
     
  3. mr. magoo

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    Thompson did. He was a mandatory the first time they met. Second time around probably wasn't justified, but he was at least keeping busy. Mormec got a shot only after Wlad was coming off of consecutive wins over Haye, Peter, Chambers and Chagaev - All top rated opposition. Every champion takes a soft touch after going on a string of fights with the best men around, did Ali and Louis not do this from time to time? Wach and Pianeta weren't very good.. But both were undefeated in a good number of fights and one of them had medaled in the previous olympics. Both were basically dominated.
     
  4. The Mongoose

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    Thompson II was a mandatory as well. Chambers refused to face Thompson in the eliminator citing an injury, than Adamek, Arreola, and I think someone else(Fury?) all declined Thompson in succession, so the IBF had enough and just made Thompson the mando to Wlad.

    People forget or in McVey's case never knew that the Wach and Pianeta run of soft touches occured while Wlad was trying to make the Povetkin fight and how hard that thing was to make. They were interm bouts while he tried to get Povetkin, the only real outstanding contender at that point, in the ring.

    Povetkin himself in this timeframe took two interm bouts while negotiatoins were ongoing..the horrible Rahman mismatch and Wawrzyk.
     
  5. mr. magoo

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    True. And one of McVey's questions was " what did some of these guys do after fighting Wlad?" Well Thompson has certainly managed to linger around the ratings and has been taking just about any fight he can get with respectable opponents, ie. Price, Pulev, Solis, Takem, etc.. He's certainly putting himself out there and fighting better guys than Holmes was at 43. BTW, I may have been incorrect about Pianeta or Wach being a former olympian. My bad.
     
  6. The Mongoose

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    And even in defeat, Thompson has put in respectful showings against these guys. And supposedly he's fighting Anthony Joshua next, the hottest prospect on the market.

    Povetkin KOed Charr and Takem, and is fighting Perez next month.

    So both these guys are having fine post-Wlad careers.

    Of the four guys Povetkin and Wlad faced while finalizing their fight, Wach was certainly the biggest risk. Despite his lack of skill, his size, power, and durability are not ideal qualities for a soft touch with a bigger fight on the horizon. So hard to knock it.
     
  7. mr. magoo

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    The heavyweight division isn't exactly a wealth of talent right now, but not nearly as bad as some are making it out to be. In fact there are quite a few decent young fighters on the rise. And who knows, someone like Wilder may yet have an impact on the scene. I didn't realize Thomson was fighting Joshua. I hope he doesn't get hurt too badly, but then again I said the same thing before he fought another young prospect named David Price.
     
  8. dinovelvet

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    Oh dear, when will it stop. Somebody please tell me when it will stop.

    Wlad pleaded with the WBA to allow him fight Pianeta - his own sparring partner. Who he had sent home early when he was hired for the Thompson rematch:tired:oops:.

    He was putting the Povetkin fight off , probably thinking up a way how he could beat him without actually having to box.

    http://www.kyivpost.com/content/spo...chko-delay-fight-against-povetkin-319608.html

    https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/boxing-wba-let-klitschko-delay-povetkin-fight-111814234.html
     
  9. mr. magoo

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    So who exactly is Wlad ducking? Who should he be fighting? What criteria should these so called "ducked" opponents posses, aside from being big, undefeated, in their primes and coming off of wins over contenders, the way that most of them have been in recent times? Should we see if we can clone young copies of Lennox Lewis, George Foreman, Muhamad Ali and Mike Tyson? If so and should Wlad manage to beat THEM, what next? Should we see if we can summon a God to finally dethrone him?
     
  10. Good Cop

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    Aye, Mr. Velvet, it'll stop when someone stops the bad man at the top so you'll have a new source of healing to cling to that's based in reality.

    It's about damage management until that point. These delusional reconstructions work for you, so it's best to stick to them until reality is a kinder place for you and the legions of other fans that jerk tyrant has afflicted.
     
  11. The Mongoose

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    Wlad/Povetkin actually happened as me and so many others told him it would in 2013, so I don't see what he is complaining about. Is the argument Wlad ducked Povetkin for two months to take a tune up to ready himself for a fight against the guy he is ducking after he had been out of the ring so long trying to make the fight against the guy he is supposed to be ducking. :think
     
  12. kingfisher3

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    dinovelvet hates wlad so much it makes general forum pac/floyd fans seem well grounded.

    I like mcvey but If you haven't heard of the perez v abdusalemov then your opinion on modern hw boxing is just made up and totally irrelevant.
     
  13. mr. magoo

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    no matter what Klit does it won't make any difference to his haters. He could reign until he's 50 and have a Bernard Hopkins type of career and still they won't put him in their top 10.
     
  14. The Mongoose

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    It wasn't in the funny section of his Sunday newspaper, how was he to know?

    They are just two guys he never heard of, who never beat guys he heard of, so they are just boxrec stats to him. And of course giving either fighter credit, would mean he would have to credit Jennings, which means Wlad will get credit for beating Jennings, and we just can't have that.

    Best pretend Jennings is garbage, so if Wlad dominates, he domianted garbage. And if Wlad has trouble, he had trouble with garbage.
     
  15. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I know. Perez nearly killed that guy. I remember there was a donation fund going around to take contributions because Abdusalemov's family was bankrupt from his medical bills.