Send in an ATG to OUTBOX Floyd Mayweather

Good post!
Billy Graham would give him an interesting evening.
So would Luis Rodriguez.

 

are we just naming any fighters who fought around his weight who gained a spec of notoriety now?

 

Doesn't make sense to me, either.

IMO Floyd only definitely gets outboxed by Leonard, Hearns and Napoles.
Whitaker would have the edge.

 

Watch the youtube video highlights named 'Ismael Laguna- Lightweight technician' Ismael Laguna was the definition of a boxing technician and to not know that shows a lack of boxing knowledge.

How the hell does everything Kryptonite say about Laguna's technical skill and mastery apply more so to Mayweather? You admit you haven't even watched much of Laguna yet you come to that assumption. Trust me there are things Laguna did in the ring that Floyd couldn't but you probably wont see that as you don't come across as a particularly bright poster.

 

Why don't you actually watch Laguna and compare them yourself you pretender.

Two things right off the hat that Laguna is better than Floyd at is lateral movement and jab. He also has much better punch variety.

The hypocrisy of you asking me to add specific details :rofl

 

Pathetic response. You haven't watched much Mayweather, have you? Laguna was a very good fighter but you're comparing him to an all time great and one of the most defensively skilled fighters of all time. He was extremely versatile (esp when he was fighting men Laguna's size) and a master at outsmarting good, experienced opponents. I'm tied up right now but wanted to write in to let you know that I disagree with your claims re: lateral movement and jabs. Depends what you mean by punch variety. Floyd had every punch in the book but adapted a more cautionary style as he moved up in weight. I've seen more Laguna than you seem to think and will try to throw together some example clips tonight or tomorrow.

 

I've watched nearly every single Mayweather fight. He's one of the most overrated stylists of all time. A great fighter yes but H2H he doesnt seem that great. There is multiple hall of famers never mind greats throughout history that imo would beat Floyd.

You say you're disagreeing with my claims but previously admitted to not watching Laguna other than the Buchanan II fight Now you've changed your tune to ''I've seen more Laguna than you seem to think'' :rofl

I cant wait to hear more lies and your half ****d search for examples and clips to show me Good luck with that btw. No way does Floyd jab and move better than Laguna, its just not happening. Anybody who can come to that conclusion is nothing but a blinded Floyd fanboy.

 

Of course you have.

Yawn. Cool story and all but you're saying absolutely nothing here other than that you don't think all that highly of him. You still haven't shared any details or specifics about Floyd and his attributes. Waste of typing, really.

That was a long time ago. Unlike some people here, I still watch a lot of fights and I try hard to fill in the gaps in my boxing knowledge. I don't always agree with Roscoe/Kryptonite but I respect his take as a serious fight fan enough to go back and watch more fights. I've since seen Laguna's fights against Mando Ramos and Vincente Saldivar. Hope to watch his fights with Ortiz over the weekend.

Why would I lie? I don't care enough about you or your opinion to lie about anything to you. As far as I can tell, Laguna's only potential advantages over Mayweather are speed-related but Mayweather more than makes up for any marginal speed difference with his superior boxing IQ, timing, and precision. Laguna can fire off a faster double or triple-jab but Mayweather places and times his jabs better. Laguna may be able to step in a circle or in a basic back and forth pattern more quickly (maybe) but Mayweather uses his lateral movement in more three-dimensional and irregular patterns, with greater purposefulness, and thereby creates more separation and better angles with it. Laguna has amazing upper body speed when he starts rhythmically crouching and slipping but Mayweather is much harder to hit and uses his defensive movements far more precisely and intelligently. Just my two cents from what I've seen so far.


Ok. You've gotten me in enough trouble so I have to go for real now. Will continue tomorrow.

 

My details or specifics about Floyd and his attributes are plastered all over this site. I even once started a massive pro Floyd thread pointing out his pro's as a fighter because I was sick of the hate he was getting at the time.

That's a pretty decent breakdown. So what you're basically saying is Floyds more economical and cautious than Laguna thus making him the better technician?

Remember and post comparison clips when you come back Mr Kool :good

 

If you think that from kev the div is bullsh!t, wait until he gets started with Leonard.

 

I think a prime Mosley beats Floyd, Maurice Blocker had the size and skills to trouble him, Kid Gavalin as well ..

 

I've seen mr kevs carefully selected clips in the Leonard-Duran debates on here

 

Duran lmao and henrry armstrong a pure pressure fighter outboxing floyd? Lol Jesús what a bunch of trash

 

gavalin? Lol

 

Paul "The Punisher" Williams