Send in your 1899-1909 heavyweight to beat Mike Tyson and Usyk

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Send them in. There must be a heavyweight that beats both Tyson and Usyk from that time period.
     
  2. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    None of them should be favored over Oleksandr Usyk and Mike Tyson.

    In multiple tries, Jack Johnson might be able to pick up a decision win over Oleksandr Usyk somewhere along the line. James J. Jeffries has the best chance of completing that task against Mike Tyson.
     
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  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Jack Johnson
    Jim Jefferies
    Etcetera
     
  5. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, take Usyk and Tyson back to 1900 and Jeffries and Johnson could beat them. Because of the gloves and rules Usyk never had to grapple like they did back then and if Tyson can't get Johnson outta there early he'd be in for some sustained damage.
     
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  6. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Y'all know Langford exists right?
     
  7. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Only Jack Johnson rates any chance imo - however much chance that is. Johnson’s style was more than enough to prevail over his contemporaries, what more need he have done? -

    However, he would have to modify that style against the likes of Tyson and Usyk. I think he could do that for much greater effect - such were his natural abilities - but it requires some extensive extrapolation.
     
  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Sam Langford vs Mike Tyson and Usyk
     
  9. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A young Sam Langford I guess? Or Jack Johnson?

    I don’t really think either is going to pull it off, but if anyone is, it’s one of those two.
     
  10. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The 1900's fighters would have a much better chance against the overrated Usyk than Mike Tyson.
    Though I'd still favor Usyk against most of them. If Jack Johnson was allowed to fight under that era's rules and for twenty-five rounds , perhaps he'd beat Usyk.
    There's no way he'd survive prime Mike Tyson .
    BUT Neither would Usyk TBH.
     
  11. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All Bob needs is one punch and he would have both Tyson and Usky looking up at the stars. That is my pick.
     
  12. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    POW!!!!!!
     
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  13. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Matching fighters from 125 years ago with ones who came 70+ years later is simply impractical in nature. You’re literally looking at two different sports. The rules were too dissimilar as well as everything else, I.e the equipment they used, the styles, the way they trained, etc etc. about ten years ago I brought this up to Seamus and he said well it’s still about two guys hitting each other and I said well at that point you might as well just call it a street fight and not a boxing match.
     
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  14. Mandela2039

    Mandela2039 Philippians 2:10-11 Full Member

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    Can you win by intimidation?

    If so, my pick is Sam Langford.
     
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  15. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Don’t push The Horse Shoer. :D