Send in your best to beat these guys Part 3 at 160

(Greb)- Marvin Hagler. He had the combination of boxing ability as well as physical strength to deal with Greb. In addition Hagler could switch stances and fight superbly out of either stance. He was also awkward and that his right hand jab was his power punch and that sent a lot of opponents to the hospital.
(Steele)- I don't know I am not familiar enough with him.

(Sugar Ray Robinson)- Harry Greb. Greb had the physical style, high work-rate, size and strength. IF Robinson had a weakness it may be the physical style where he may have lacked some strength not punching power but strength. If HG can take Sugar Ray's punch he's got it in the bag.

(Carlos Monzon)- Bernard Hopkins. The Executioner could figure out Carlos as the fight wore on. At his best Hopkins was very good at this. Making adjustments, I believe he had more all around game then Carlos.

(Marvin Hagler)- Roy Jones Jr. IF hagler had a weakness it was dealing with speedy mobile boxers. Jones was a nightmare for anybody take away your personal bias for or against him this is a simple fact.

(Roy Jones Jr). - Sugar Ray Robinson. The best option would be someone like Robinson who could match Roy's speed both of hand and feet. Sugar Ray also had that equalizer. In essence Roy is facing a more aggressive more hittable version of his self so that could play out two ways but this is the best chance you have of beating the great Roy Jones.

(Bernard Hopkins)-Sugar Ray Robinson. Sugar Ray because he is quicker than Bernard. He also will not let Bernard at work him. Sugar Ray won't be lulled into a slow methodical pace. At his middleweight best Ray's punches were blinding his combinations were crisp. He punched off of his movement and he was hard to catch. See the Randy Turpin rematch if you don't believe me there is good film on that fight. That is the Ray Robinson you should be thinking about when these matchups are presented.

 

I would just preface it by saying that the fight against McCallum rather than the ones between were the learning and growing experience he needed. But that’s cool if we see it differently

 

I'm bracing myself for the Monzon boys to come in here and castigate me 4 picking Hopkins to beat Carlos.

 

Oh it’ll come. Pro Hopkins talk must be driven from the forum lol. Hang tough bro

 

Quick note. I would consider sending in Randy Turpin 2 face Roy Jones only because of his physical style and his very unusual style it was more unusual than many people even realize. He was a tough out if you hadn't seen him before I don't think he was ever the same after his chin got cracked but on those occasions he fought Robinson he was at his best.

 

They gonna murder me Monzon style LOL

 

Yeah I'm going with Greb based on what description of him as a fighter is. I think the men he beat give me a little bit of comfort because he beat bigger guys who could box like Gene Tunney. I do think boxing had advanced from Greb's peak to Robinson's peak certainly I don't think that there was a better era then the thirties and forties. That's just my opinion but pre television the great champions put together everything that was learned in the previous generations. Sugar Ray may have been something he never seen before with this speed mobility as well as power but he does have the tools to make it a rough rough go.

 

People need to watch Roy again in his prime. He was outrageously good.

 

Outrageously good is a good way to describe him.

 

I am not familiar with this Junior Jones Roy that you speak of...but I will begin to look into him. How do you think he might fare against a John Ruiz type?