Send in your come forward slugger type fighter to beat 1974 George Foreman

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  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    Better inside fighting too, longevity and chin.
     
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  2. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    Personally I think those terms are mumbo jumbo and ignore them - just me.
     
  3. Journeyman92

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    He’d have a lot to say about Louis afterwards then, Louis had all the tools and would be landing 4-1 compared to Lyle, incredibly fast with every bit as much power from all the blind angles these combos would come from.
    (Do you agree?)

    Louis was KD’d but not often in danger especially not the way Foreman was vs Lyle.
    (Agree?)

    Louis also fought for a long time so these things happen imagine if George tried fighting for a decade against contenders? lol…

    (Do you agree he that those KD’s were the result of him being a long standing champion and require context? Foreman too would have his moments In a similar long reigning situation? - please list all the instances he was KD’d)

    According to you Louis isn’t a defensive wizard, I’d need an extensive effort to prove his defence wasn’t any good? but people who know there S would say they it was a very good defence especially for a HW as was his footwork.

    (disprove this, back YOUR claims up that he had bad footwork, balance and a bad defence lol break it down technically, no “he- he got hit KD’d” happens even to Archie Moore this is a wild claim you’ve got there lol…)

    Louis was stopped by Marciano when he was ancient and by Schemling when he was young but not because his chin let him down because he was outsmarted, it was a prolonged beat down.

    (Again list the KD’s and show me where he was in grave danger… he was stopped x2 in 69 fights using one style how is his chin / defence bad?)

    It’d also be Louis who is the better finisher here… Who did Foreman finish? Norton and Frazier? Come forward scrappers? Louis tracked down and stopped every type of fighter, Conn and Walcott are actually great examples of why his footwork was very good same as his finishing ability…

    (Agree? Disagree?)

    what happened to Galento after Louis was very briefly KD’d? He wanted Two Ton to come to him, same as most guys because of what you saw after he was KD’d…

    (Am I right?, why would he try to stay away from Galento like you tried saying to prove his footwork is bad?)

    Against Marciano he was shot I don’t know who would hold that bout against him when Marciano was GREAT at cutting the ring anyway and he was old on top of it lol - which He had better footwork then Louie exactly? Is it Ali? Please tell me it’s Ali LOL.

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    Louis’s isn’t perfect but who is the closest to that fact? Louis IMO at HW)

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    here you go chief
     
  4. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    Wow! Okay then.
     
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  5. Journeyman92

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    Okay that wasn’t very polite, personally I just don’t think calling someone a “swarmer” or a “boxer-puncher” really captures what a fighter IS just a silly bit of nit picking really on my part.
     
  6. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Corbett outbrawls Foreman easy peasy
     
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  7. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

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    Unfortunately I can't think of a slugging heavyweight who beats Foreman at that game -- EXCEPT maybe Louis or Liston. A cautious and patient Lennox Lewis might get the better of George in the middle rounds when he finally opens up. Peak Holyfield had the big endurance edge; I could see him outlasting George and stopping him late. But '74 Foreman would be a frightening opponent for any of them.
     
  8. newurban99

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    True, his body never looked prime after Ali 1. And he was never again as sharp.
     
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  9. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    That goes without saying but I’m glad you said it.
     
  10. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    I must’ve missed Baer’s elite, powerful jab that was actually compared to that of Louis’ in terms of overall quality. I needs to watch Maxie more closely. :D
     
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  11. Steve Fero

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    Lennox Lewis or Deontay Wilder I would pick.
     
  12. Steve Fero

    Steve Fero Member Full Member

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    Anyone picking Primo Carnera or Rocky Marciano is living in some kind of fantasy world. They would both be 1 st round knockouts for 74 Foreman 100%.
     
  13. Glass City Cobra

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    Wilder can't really brawl, he was eaten alive by Fury, Parker, even Ortiz when forced to exchange. He's a long range sniper who needs space to land his lethal right hand. Wilder has plenty of power to potentially score an upside against Foreman, but if it became a brawl I wouldn't hold my breath. He's not as durable as Foreman and lacks the 2-fisted versatility.

    Lennox Lewis is a good choice on paper, but he tended to be more on the cautious side and I can't see him going for a brawl with such a dangerous opponent. Furthermore, his 2 KO losses don't give me a lot of confidence he could win by slugging against Foreman outside of the proverbial puncher's chance.
     
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