Send in your heavyweight slugger to KO George Foreman

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Send in your slugger to KO prime George Foreman

    And then send in your heavyweight slugger to KO 1991 George Foreman

    Send them in 1 by 1
     
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  2. Ney

    Ney Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don’t think anyone who traditionally could be called a slugger in the stylistic sense could be favoured to beat Foreman.

    If we can extend that to include fighters with a big knockout punch, then only Louis & Liston would I back against Foreman in his pomp - & then, only with great caution.

    Door’s a little wider ajar for 90’s Foreman. Punchers I’d favour to get the better of him would include prime Dempsey, Frazier, Tyson, Lewis, maybe Bowe. Not all of these fought aggressively though & perhaps none could truly be described as a slugger.

    Foreman’s a tough nut to crack in his second career & only for the best of the best in his first.
     
  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Don't know if Frazier even beats a 1991 Foreman. Foreman still had his power and strength and IMO an even better chin.

    Also, prime Shannon Briggs vs prime Foreman would be entertaining
     
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  4. Ney

    Ney Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As you like it. I favour Frazier’s extreme workrate & Foreman’s relative absence of finishing energy to play crucial roles. Frazier beats his mid-section badly & the head wilts accordingly for mine.
     
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  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Finishing energy? Explain?
     
  6. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    Foreman realistically has at least 60/40 odds against anyone who runs into an infight, closest thing I can imagine to KOing Foreman with raw power is Liston but he tends to throw a few jabs and then enter into his infights. Prime Liston MIGHT have a chance in a pure infight considering Foremans claim that Liston routinely pushed Foreman back (I analyzed this claim in a prior post of mine and what I think it means) but based off the wording we can assume that Liston was purely overpowering Foreman in his 20s.
     
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  7. Ney

    Ney Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Energy to finish, I should word it. That is, Foreman can’t pour on anywhere near the kind of up-tempo assault when he has Frazier hurt that he could in his early twenties (this will be FotC Frazier, to boot). He’s old, obese, & slow.

    He’s such a freak though that it’s conceivable to me he could stop Frazier again.
     
  8. Ney

    Ney Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I wouldn’t read too much into a 19-year-old Foreman getting pushed about by Liston. That would be as much a matter of deference as physicality, IMO. & I wouldn’t call Liston an in-fighter, personally. He did his damage mid-range.
     
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  9. nyterpfan

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    Prime Foreman (70's)--I would say a peak Liston, Louis, and Ali could KO George.

    90's Foreman--add Dempsey, FOTC Frazier, 80's Tyson and possibly Lennox Lewis.
     
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  10. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    I don't consider Liston an in-fighter but hes definitely not an outboxer, he’s pretty balanced but he definitely depends on jabs the most.
    Also im not quite sure what you mean by this, can you explain? The wording kinda messed me up haha sorry.
     
  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Tyson, Ali, Louis, Liston and Lewis aren't sluggers. I suppose if you stretched the definition, Liston could be
     
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  12. Ney

    Ney Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I’m having a bad morning explaining myself. Deference as in I think he’d be intimidated by Liston at that age & experience level.
     
  13. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    All good haha, I guess maybe its possible Foreman was too scared to go all out but they seemed to be pretty comfortable around each other from what iv seen. Liston seemed to have taken more of a role model type place in his life, he’d need to be very close to him emotionally to attempt to emulate his personality IMO, maybe thats a stretch though.
     
  14. Totentanz.

    Totentanz. Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire Full Member

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    I feel like this is a somewhat impossible task.
     
  15. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Noone runs at George Foreman and wins, the best chances anyone would have would maybe be Max Baer or Sonny Liston, but Liston would be better off keeping him at the end of a jab, and Baer would lose outright. Someone like Dempsey, allowing to adjust for the 1970s PEDs would maybe have a slight chance via a fast start. I don't think Tyson could due to not having the same kind of power, but Tyson would make him look bad for a few rounds at least. Lewis and Vitali would try to hide behind a jab. Wilder would get brutally knocked out. Marciano would probably try to stay away from Foreman and make him tired, same strategy he talked about with Sonny Liston.

    But noone can just run at Foreman. Best combination of power, chin and not respecting his opponent in heavyweight history
     
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