Sergey Alexandrovich Kovalev vs. Igor Gennadyevich Mikhalkin & Dmitry Bivol vs. Sullivan Barrera RBR

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    George or Lennox would be welcome return replacements for the current color commentator (in the absence of Steward, RIP). Roy is just as big a goofball as either but lacks their penchant for calm, reasoned analysis. He always just parrots the company line or finds a way to circle every comment back to himself.
     
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  2. Todd498

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    Jeezus... brutal.

    I’d actually go with Beterbiev in that one. That Kudra chin.. :icon_pc:
     
  3. Todd498

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    Agreed. It’s going to be fun.
     
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  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Have to say, I'm wildly disappointed in all the fake boxing fans who chose the Showtime card over HBO for live viewing priority tonight.

    @CST80 made the Showtime thread over an hour after I made this one - yet this has a quarter as many replies and less than ⅕ as many views. That's disgusting.

    "Oh but it was da worlds's heavyweight title doe!"

    Yeah, **** you. This was a world title doubleheader, in a better weight class.

    "But-but-but the outcome in Kovalev vs. Mikhalkin was a foregone conclusion..."

    Yeah, **** you. Same with the other main event. Ortiz was a what, 7/1 underdog? Besides, the outcome in the co-main event sure wasn't a foregone conclusion at all. The majority maybe favored Bivol but most saw it as an exciting, competitive match-up between top LHW's. Look me in the ****ing eye and tell me Andre freaking Dirrell vs. José Uzcátegui II was a more tantalizing co-main event. Go ahead.

    "Yeah.. but, heavyweights doe!"

    Yeah, **** you. Heavyweights aren't inherently any ****ing better to watch, kindly suck my filthy dick clean after watching me anally deflower your mom, and then see yourself out. No, you may not spit in my sink. You want sloppy, rock 'em sock 'em robot excitement? Put together a Lemieux vs. O'Sullivan match-up ...boom, you've just blown Wilder vs. Ortiz clear outta the ****ing water in terms of excitement and potential for either guy to be hurt at any given moment...

    "Aw, c'mon IB, with heavies any single punch at any time can-"

    YEAH, **** YOU. IF BOTH GUYS HAVE MASSIVE POWER RELATIVE TO THEIR CLASS AND/OR EVEN REMOTELY SHAKY WHISKERS, THAT IS EVERY BIT AS TRUE AT 154lbs. EVERY BIT AS TRUE AT 168lbs. EVERY BIT AS TRUE AT LIGHT FLY, AND LIGHT WELTER. Nobody has ever performed a study - not any of us forum nerds, let alone real scientists doing peer-reviewed **** - on there being a correlation between higher prevalence of knockouts and moving up the line graph in terms of weight. It's a myth that everyone kind of just shrugs and accepts because it "sounds convincing enough". Well, I watch a lot of boxing. It isn't true. Kayos are no more frequent and boring uneventful decisions no rarer at heavyweight than in any other division.

    "Yeah okay IB but even so even if that isn't true, you have to admit, just the idea of it being heavyweights makes it more exciting. They're so...big!"

    Yeah, **** you, you dumb impressionable little size queen. I'm clearly not as insecure in my masculinity as you, because I don't fetishize size and automatically conflate it with fighting ability and ferocity. There would be no disproportionate representation from heavyweights gracing a top 50 pound for pound all time punchers list, and certainly not on straight-up all-time p4p greatest h2h lists.

    I skimmed around my DVR of Wilder vs. Ortiz , saw all I needed to, and replayed the KO (and the minute leading up to it) about five times. You're just a bunch of hysterical little girls, all of you, and you need to calm the **** down. Nothing special happened. A giant super heavy carefully managed paper titlist with good power and alternately average or terrible boxing skills (depending on his temperament and the conditions of the fight in progress) outlasted an old bulky plodder in a war of attrition where both got some big licks in. Big ****ing deal. If you didn't think tuning in to see the pair of Russian light heavyweight champs defend against varying degrees of live body was more interesting than waiting for Wilder to accidentally windmill Ortiz into unconsciousness (as long as Ortiz didn't accidentally uppercut him into unconsciousness first) then you're not a boxing fan. You're just a hysterical little girl who should watch bodybuilding or World's Strongest Man instead, because you're nothing but a size queen pretending to buy into the HW mystique because large men get your little sissy nuts off. :fusmile
     
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  5. Kevin Willis

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    No wonder Badou Jack ducked Bivol! I feel he will topple Stevenson in May if he can throw at least 60 punches per round a late stoppage would not suprise me.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

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    Derek Edwards (who just today lost a drama-free UD to Avni Yildrim, same guy Eubank Jr. annihilated) iced Jack...the very idea of him getting in the ring with Bivol gives me the shudders. They would need paramedics literally waiting on the ring apron when they rang the opening bell.
     
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  7. Farmboxer

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    I think Stevenson will knock Jack out, but Kovalev, Bivol, Gvozdyk, Beterbiev would knock Stevenson out for sure!
     
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  8. scorecard12

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    Kovalev looked really off in that fight. and I've seen Igor fight in germany by a B+ and he didn't look very good then. Chilemba, ward, ward and igor

    4 of his last 5 not looking like the killer he once was.
     
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  9. IntentionalButt

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    You do have Shabranskyy in there as the combo-breaker, where Krusher did look his old destructive self...although he was (as Lampley and Kellerman pointed out like 50 times) basically made to order...
     
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  10. Howitzer1888

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    Bivol looked great I thought. Excellent all-around boxing skills, nice judgment of distance, excellent combinations and a great, laser-guided 1-2 to finish off the fight in the 12th after having dominated the fight. More impressive win than Ward's was, imo.

    Kovalev looked decent, got the job done I suppose. Bivol looked more impressive though, against a superior opponent.
     
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  11. underscore

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    I was really high on Bivol before this fight and am probably worthy of being called a fully fledged fanboy at this point.
    When he was moving in and out dodging shots and replying with thudding, really quick ones of his own it was sublime boxing. But the biggest thing I’ll take away from this was his defence. The way he flicked and blocked Barrera’s jabs away like they were nothing and moved to take all venom away from his power shots really impressed me.
     
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  12. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    This was a much higher quality card than Showtime garbage.
    Bivol looked sensational against a TOP contender. Barrera's style did pose him problems hence a cut over a right eye and hematoma on the left.

    Kov did as well as he could for 34 year old? He battered a very tough guy who knew him and his style since the amateurs. I did notice Kov firing quick combos close range, something I've never seen him do recently. His new trainer is good. For his age he did as well as he could, Sergey should call it quits at the end of 2019.
     
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  13. chitownfightfan

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    Better win?????
    Kovalev legit over Beterbiev
    Beterbiev legit over Kovalev
    Ward bullfeces over Kovalev
    Ward bullfeces tko over Kovalev

    ?????

    I think Beterbiev is a better win overall since he is genuinely undefeated and far more accomplished than Ward before Froch.
    Kovalev is a GREAT win for Beterbiev as well, but his razor thin Boone 1 and controversial Ls to Ward taint his record.
    Wards gifts from the judges (Kessler/Kova1)and of course the tag team efforts Kova2/Kessler) were legacy snags IMO.

    A Kovalev W clean and clear over Beterbiev is the best W imo.
     
  14. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Kovalev must be about to go to Showtime because Lampley, Roy, and Kellerman were pissing all over him last night. They must have gotten some strict marching orders from the executives telling them to push hard for a Bivol/Kovalev fight too because they asked them both about a dozen times if they would fight each other.

    Also, that stuff Kovalev said about going where the money was best, that doesn't sound like Bivol. That sounds like he wants to go to Showtime and fight Badou Jack or Adonis Stevenson.
     
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  15. chitownfightfan

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    Ok boxed ears:duh

    Enough trollollollolloing.

    The HBO card, carried far better fighters.
    All 4 feature LHWs would decimate Dirrel or Utz.
    And Wilder and Ortiz are solid HWs but not p4p types on the level of Kovalev or Bivol.

    That said.....

    The Showtime card had more competitive bouts. Regardless of our SUBJECTIVE OPINION as to the fighters involved and their level