Sergey Kovalev is a much less skilled fighter then Gennady Golovkin

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Kovalev is an A level talent who has faced and defeated other A level talents.

    Golovkin is an A level talent who has faced and defeated mostly C level fighters, and now he's targeting guys 2 weight classes below him.

    Their skills are on par, but Kovalev is the one seeking out great challenges while Golovkin is cherry picking smaller no-hopers for paydays.

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    Rumsfeld, Jul 12, 2016
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  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    I don't agree that Hopkins was A- level when Kovalev beat him.

    He was soundly beaten by Dawson two years earlier and i wouldn't class Dawson as A level.

    But you're right about Kovalev beating better fighters than GGG. But the gap isn't that wide imo
     
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  3. Rumsfeld

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    Well I still think Hopkins was A level, and he was certainly much, much better than anyone Golovkin has faced to date (not necessarily Gennady's fault, but it is what it is).

    And I definitely think Dawson was an A level boxer until he met Andre Ward.

    Golovkin's best victory is still Murray, and he's been moving backwards rather than forwards in terms of his opposition since then.
     
    Rumsfeld, Jul 12, 2016
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  4. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Golovkin is seeking out similar challenges. He wants to beat everyone in his division, unify the titles and make money. Same things Kovalev is trying to achieve.
     
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  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    That's the only reason for the farce of a "fight" against Brook.

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    Rumsfeld, Jul 12, 2016
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  6. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That and the fact that there weren't any other great options for him at short notice.
     
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  7. SteelShoulders

    SteelShoulders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Do you guys know anything about boxing? Ward is kryptonite to both lil g and kkkov's style. He's gonna give kov a boxing lesson, and would throw ggg around the ring while hitting him with power shots the whole time.

    Ward is far superior to both. Kkkovalev has fought much better opp than triple g. Too hard to call they're pretty damn equal.
     
    SteelShoulders, Jul 12, 2016
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  8. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just for interest, here's GGG best 10 wins vs Kovalev's best 10 wins (I'm a fan of both, so no agenda here):

    GGG
    Lemiuex
    Murray
    Rubio
    Geale
    Stevens
    Monroe Jr
    Rosado
    Macklin
    Proksa
    Ishida

    Kovalev
    Hopkins
    Pascal 1
    Chilemba
    Pascal 2
    Cleverly
    Mohammedi
    Caparello
    Campillo
    Boone 2
    Agnew/Sillakh/White

    Think the main difference is that Kovalev has two A-level fighters, Hopkins and Pascal.

    The rest is pretty similar in level, Lemiuex/Murray/Geale/Rubio are not worse than Chilemba/Cleverly/Mohammedi.

    I guess just how wide the gap is depends how much weight you place on the best couple of names on a resume vs the rest.
     
    KiwiMan, Jul 12, 2016
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  9. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good post^. I don't actually think Pascal and that version of Hopkins were all that great tbh. They are better than Golovkin's opponents but guys like Saunders, Canelo, Cotto, Martinez have avoided Golovkin.
     
    Gneus7, Jul 12, 2016
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  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    To be honest Chilemba is probably better than Lemieux and Murray, GGG best wins.

    But skill wise it's a toss up.
     
    tinman, Jul 12, 2016
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  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Harold Lederman gave Kovalev the 4th as well, even though I scored it before he did, and I'll go out on a limb here and say Harold is a way better judge than you, you prolapsed horse's rectum.
     
    CST80, Jul 12, 2016
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  12. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why are you and dino always fighting :lol:, you guys are probably my 2 favorite posters on here.
     
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  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Because he's annoyed that I know way more than he does, (about everything not just Boxing:yep) and feels very insecure about it. So he lashes out at me.
     
    CST80, Jul 12, 2016
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  14. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I actually agree here, but most posters would probably consider them at a similar level.
     
    KiwiMan, Jul 12, 2016
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  15. tinman

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    If GGG was a naturally bigger man he would make easy work of Ward. Golovkin's style is all wrong for Ward. GGG can cut off the ring with the best of them. Pure boxers like room to operate.
     
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