Sergey Kovalev is hated even in Russia

And if they would be, the sport would not be as entertaining.

 

(Die hard) Fans of other boxers mainly.

 

Oh look, it's my personal stalker again. Your reasoning is flawed - just because most minorities living in Russia are not "in any physical danger", doesn't mean that Russians are tolerant of other races and cultures. In fact, I know that they aren't.

It is amusing how quickly Russians who fled to the West forget how ****ty their native country and people are. I'll humour you though, here are three examples off the top of my head:

1. Yelena Mizulina, who is a Russian politician, recently said that all Jews living in Russia should go back to their Israel. By the way, she hates gays as well. As far as I know, she wasn't reprimanded in any way. And why would she be? It's Russia after all. :deal
2. March 2015 - Russians are hosting a fascist forum in St. Petersburg while calling Ukrainians fascists :nut
3. The murder of Boris Nemtsov and how FSB keeps removing flowers from his grave. They won't even let the man rest in peace :-((


A famous Russian writer Mikhail Saltykov-Shchedrin once wrote: "If I fall asleep and wake up in 100 years, and people ask me what is going on in Russia today, I will say drinking and stealing".

 

So basically you're saying that this intolerance only manifests itself in things people say? Again, if Russians were so intolerant, then there is no way that someone like Stalin could ever come to power, let alone remain in power for 25 years. Absolutely no way. I could also mention such facts as the current defense minister being half Tuvan (Asian), the chairman of the Central Bank being a Tatar woman, and many other examples of such "intolerance".

That is a FAKE story that was exposed a long time ago:
http://wwww.eajc.org/page16/news47443.html

No truth in it whatsoever. The fact that you would bring up a fake story like this as your "number one example" shows what your argument is really worth - nothing.

A handful of marginals hosting another handful of marginals - who cares? It's not relevant in reality. And it's not even comparable to Ukraine, which has entire military units which openly display neo-Nazi symbols and regalia.

Nemstov was a marginal politician, who was despised for his political views. This has nothing to do with racial or cultural intolerance. And I suspect this story about the FSB, which apparently has nothing better to do, removing flowers from his grave is about as factual as the FAKE you brought up above.

 

You didn't post any article, I did. The article is from a Jewish organization and describes the origin of the FAKE story that you brought up. You only brought up three "examples of intolerance" and this was one of them. You tried to use a fake story to support an argument that has no merit. When called on it, you try to act like it's not fake, but there are too many Russian speaking people here for that to pass.

No, there are a lot of immigrants, not neo-Nazis. There are millions of visibly non-Russian immigrants. Meanwhile, true active neo-Nazis are a tiny group, maybe several hundred people in a country of 142 million. If there are a lot of neo-Nazis, then where's the race war? There is nothing like that going on. Either they are very few or they're not active at all. There's no other explanation.

 

One article means nothing, especially when it is a known fact that Russia is buying reporters left and right to spread its propaganda. By the way, how do you know that that story is fake? Because RT said so? atsch

Again, you are conveniently IGNORING the fact that your precious country hates gays, which is an example of, you guessed it, INTOLERANCE.

Sure, let's all take a word of a random yokel that there are only "several hundred" neo-Nazis in Russia. On a second thought, why don't we use a more REPUTABLE source :deal

From en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Neo-Nazism#Russia:
"In a country that lost more people defeating the Nazis than any other country, there are now an estimated 50,000 to 70,000 neo-Nazis, half of the world's total. This irony is further exemplified when looking at neo-Nazi groups such as the Gay Aryan Skinheads (GASH) and the Gay Aryan National Socialists (GANS), who emphasise the "man's fight" for fascism in Russia; these groups together have thousands of members. One of these groups, GANS, has a flag depicting two crossed erect *****es beneath a swastika"

You were saying?

 

Oh yes, nothing like a good ole fashion ethnic tlame war

I don't really know the politics and the inner workings of Russia like u guys, HOWEVER the mention of gay Nazis and pen1s swastikas automatically makes me question Russian glasses credibility

 

I simply quoted wikipedia

 

It must be some sort of troll, that **** doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

 

It's not one article, there are many articles talking about this - I only posted one of them. And if your argument is that a member of parliament can make statements like that and not even be reprimanded, then why would there even be any articles to cover it up? Doesn't make sense. Checkmate.

How many gays were killed in Russia last year? We know that western gay rights activists are just waiting to jump all over any such cases - so how many were there? I think the answer is zero or thereabouts. Doesn't sound like a group that is seriously hated.

That is from an article from 2007 and there is no source given for those numbers. 50000 to 70000 - they simply pulled these figures out of their ass. Estimated by who? There is no source given. If those numbers are anywhere near accurate, then where is the large scale bloodshed? Because it should be all over the place, but instead it simply doesn't exist.

You need to stop reading that gay blog or at least start being more skeptical of the things that guy says. He isn't even capable of recognizing obvious satirical fakes like "gay neo-Nazi groups". There are no gay neo-Nazi groups. The sh!t is fake and quite obviously so, at least if you have an IQ above room temperature.

 

Typical Russian - every news article that does not appear on RT.com is fake atsch

Why does the age of the article matter? Are you implying that all those neo-Nazis are no longer in Russia?

From a 2014 article titled "Thousands of Russian Neo-Nazis & Nationalists March in Moscow":
"The event attracted an estimated 10,000 people – a mixture of neo-Nazis, Orthodox Christians, monarchists, and anti-immigrant activists."

Year? 2014. Location? Moscow, Russia. Number of neo-Nazis and anti-immigrant activists? 10,000. 10,000 >>>> "several hundred". And it's just one city.


Bloodshed doesn't exist you say? Here are more sources for you, yokel.

From "Hatred for Black People" by Shehu Sani:
"Survival for non-white people in Russia means that they must learn how to behave themselves in order not to become casualties of the raging wave of racism in the nation’s cities. For Africans in Russian cities this has come to mean knowing where they can go and when it is safe to go there."

From "Ethnic Relations in Post-Soviet Russia" by Andrew Foxall:
"Although 2008 saw the first decrease in the number of recorded victims of racist and neo-Nazi attacks since 2004, the number of attacks in 2008 (615 victims) was more than double that in 2004 (268 victims) (see Table 5.2). In 2012, the figure stood at 206 victims. Ethnic violence is found in virtually all regions and each Russian city has its own particular distribution of violent attacks."

Keep in mind that these are just the attacks that have been reported. The real number is much higher.

:hi:

 

No offense, but ABC news' credibility >>>>>>> random Russian yokel's credibility. I have no reason to doubt those numbers because they are in line with what I've seen in Russia.

abcnews.go. com/Nightline/story?id=3718255

 

Can't ESB have a better race baiting/wikipedia worshipper troll than you ?

You're decidely lowering the trolling standards the ESB moderators have accustomed us to.
Please try harder; our entertainment is at stake.

 

Cereal monotony is a better troll.

 

Russian is not a race atsch And I don't see anything wrong with replying to butthurt Russian posters who seem to have a problem with my account name.