Sergey Kovalev vs James Toney

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  1. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Remember that toneys' good at work was at 200lb or heavyweight because he was too lazy to keep his weight down, so skilled, tough and fast and composed.

    he wouldnt back away from kovalev who likes pushing his man back to punch going foward using angles and such, toney is one of the only men in the last 20years who sits in the pocket unnerved by big punchers, counters naturally and parries. i dont think he could do it kovalev at 175 all night, because they will start to sting. but he will time kovalev and scrape a decision, remember toney can be outworked and kovalev works hard to set up that defence. toney close UD.

    But ward is going to get ****ed up!!!!!!!
     
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  2. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Taking em to school on two subjects huh. lol
     
  3. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    How many fighters do you know off the top of your head were legit champions @ MW who also hold a KO win over an ATG HW?
     
  4. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Holyfield was nowhere near prime I sincerely hope you realize that.
     
  5. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Really good fight, i honestly have no idea who would have won. Sort of depends on what Kovalev does these nest 2-3 years for me to get a clearer picture either way.
     
  6. bowlingkid09

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    Toney's resume is absolutely lacking. Look at this list of ****ing bums: Nunn, McCallum (3x), Jones Jr., Johnson, Sosa, Griffin (2x), Wolfe, Dewitt, Littles, Williams, Barkley, Jirov, Holyfield, Peter (2x), Rahman, Ruiz, and Lebedev. That is one shitty resume my friends.
     
  7. whopperdong

    whopperdong "sorry dan, im the man" Full Member

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    I don't think Roy schooled him in a boxing sense, Roy was just tooooo quick. Toney came in at the weight limit but his prep wasn't ideal, he definately wasn't in optimum shape for that match.
     
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  8. whopperdong

    whopperdong "sorry dan, im the man" Full Member

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    Not even Lewis could ko that holeyfeild.
     
  9. whopperdong

    whopperdong "sorry dan, im the man" Full Member

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    out of shape unmotivated toney can loose fights he has no business loosing but he doesn't get beaten up.
     
  10. bcr

    bcr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    C'mon, lightheavy was the worst weight of Toney, he never looked good at that weight despite the opposition.
     
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  11. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Holyfield was clearly not the same in the Toney fight as he was in the Lewis fights...
     
  12. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I know the names. Who did he beat that was prime tho....and a good fighter? You literally went on boxrec and listed names of fighters that you know nothing about. Nunn was the only prime great fighter he got the win against that you listed.

    How many wins and losses did Barkley have again after Toney whooped him? Exactly...

    His wins of prime great fighters that you listed were Nunn is the only one so **** off.
     
  13. Selina

    Selina Well-Known Member Full Member

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    First of all, saying someone at prime was unbeatable is just theoretical expression and you can argue most of the elite level fighters never lost at their prime (depending on how you define prime, which is also subjective) making that statement pretty useless.

    At 175 I have Kovalev. Toney was very good fighter, had skills and toughness, but he wasn´t a monster at 175 nor he was unbeatable in any weight class - Fighters with speed had him in trouble. For example, in Jones Jr. fight, he was too stationary to compete with Roy, especially in long range. IMO Kovalev would use his reach and footwork and eventually he would jabs his way to a clear point win. Kovalev is no Jirov!
     
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  14. bowlingkid09

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    Ouch, did I hit a nerve? Why so serious?
     
  15. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Nobody under 200 beats a focused toney other than prime RJJ
     
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