Sergio Martínez is Top 3

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  1. hellsbells

    hellsbells nihil sub sole novum Full Member

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    I imagine this is a book with lots of pictures and not many long words.
     
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  2. Caestus

    Caestus Active Member Full Member

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    It's not a book sponsored by HBO I can tell you that.
     
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  3. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    and if this fight will be close , which I think it will happen , then do u still rank Golo as No 1 in your book ? :think
     
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  4. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who has Golovkin beat who is better than Martinez opposition? Pirog is good but most people have only seen his fight against Jacobs and he isn't on Martinez's level.

    Proksa is 1-1 in fights against hope who wasn't even top 20 @ the time.
     
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  5. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not so sure about Golovkin. He obviously has tremendous power for his size, but his style seems tailor-made for a good counter-puncher:

    He keeps his head forward all the time, and he never moves to the side after a punch. Heck, he almost never even moves BACK after a punch. He reminds me a lot of a small Seth Mitchell.

    Proska, however, looks like the real deal. He has power like Golovkin (although his is due more to great technique/ leverage) but he has vastly better defensive skills.

    He's my new "favorite fighter to watch."

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    So who's this guy that beat him in March, Kerry Hope? 17-4 with only 1 KO, and he won a MD against Proska? Is he an amazing defense artist, or was it a robbery?
     
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  6. Caestus

    Caestus Active Member Full Member

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    I have Proksa in high esteem.I also expect a close fight.

    Doesnt matter, the Golovkin habilities are there.And he is world amateur champion and silver medallist.He koed much bigger guys like Bute whith helmet and only four rounds, so his punching power had been proved.

    Daniel Jacobs in that time prior to the impressive Ko with Pirog, was portrayed as the next great american star, and definetly he was very good fighter with great speed and combos.Sad he didnt fight after that loss.
     
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  7. Undisputed

    Undisputed Cant G no other way Full Member

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    Comparing sergio to Danny Jacobs lol:patsch
     
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  8. Undisputed

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    I wonder y ishida hung with pirog for 12 rounds:patsch
     
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  9. Caestus

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    Dibella and De la Hoya don`t be scared...
     
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  10. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beating a prospect who also hadn't fought any world class fighters shouldn't rank you ahead of someone who has beat world class fighters.

    Golovkin may one day go on to be number 1 in the division but his amateur achievements don't move you up in rankings in the Pros.
     
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  11. Caestus

    Caestus Active Member Full Member

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    One is as good as it is.Rankings of Ring Magazine etc. dont mean ****.A lot of these raking are based in popularity.Amateur achivements count a lot more, is not the same game but you can see a lot of thing s there.The amateur carreer obvious means, say the contrary is more bull**** from promoters tv channels. If Golovkin was mexican, puerto rican, american etc. he would be right now a big name and would be selling a big ppv this month.

    I guarantee you that Golovkin will beat any MW if they fight,right now.But the guys need to have balls and step.

    Will see...if he dont get fights for me is ducking and the the nationalistic hype buyer fan base would be guilty for that, the same with Rigondeuax, Gamboa and other obvious talents.The fan is the one who need to see the real talents and demand the real fights between the best fighters, not buy the matchmaking of the promoters based on nationalism.
     
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  12. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The thing with counting amateurs is most of his top wins in the amateurs that went on to have pro careers were in their late teens and early 20s at the time so they have all long since improved with Pro training and more experiance.

    Golovkin may beat any top middle weight in the world but he hasn't beat a top 5 fighter yet so too rank him first in the weight over someone who has beat the former number 1 at the weight is unfair. Golovkin has to prove him self to get the top spot.
     
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