Sergio Martinez hasn't lost in over 12 years and 35 fights IMO!

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  1. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    Martinez is 49-2-2 (28KO) overall but IMO he should be 52-1 (28KO) , with the only loss coming vs. Antonion Margarito in early 2000 at WW. I think we can all agree that Martinez is much better now.

    Margarito was prime and Martinez had yet to peak. Martinez had no fights vs. name fighters when he took on Margarito. Since that loss he is 33-1-1 (22) overall (the loss and draw should be wins IMO, so 35-0 IMO) with wins over Richard Williams W12 and KO9, Adrian Stone KO12, Saul Roman KO4, Alex Bunema KO8, (he drew with Kermit Cintron but I though Martinez won), (he lost a MD to Paul Williams but I thought Martinez won), Kelly Pavlik W12, Paul Williams KO2, he won his last 3 by KO (Dzinziruk, Barker, and Macklin).

    Anyway, if Martinez beats Chavez, and I think he will, will he get any credit for the win? I think Chavez is a very good fighter but I have a feeling that Martinez won't get much credit for beating him unless he totally dominates.
     
    Hookie, Aug 24, 2012
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  2. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    I thought Williams outworked and outlanded Martinez for a close win, but he definitely deserved the win over Cintron.
     
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  3. Bane

    Bane Let the games begin Full Member

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    Margarito was not prime 13 years ago who do you think he is Bernard Hopkins :lol:
     
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  4. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    I think he should be 51-2, 29 KO's
    He just lost the Williams I fight in my book by a very slight margin, and he KO'd Cintron instead of a draw.
     
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  5. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    That's right I forgot, Maragrito is in his prime now :patsch
     
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  6. Bane

    Bane Let the games begin Full Member

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    He is one or two fights away from his prime.
     
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  7. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    Anyway, if and when Martinez beats Chavez... will it be viewed as a good win over a good fighter or a win over an inexperienced fighter. Well, I know Chavez has 46 fights but he just started fighting guys with a pulse recently.
     
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  8. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    It will be a good win over a prime, big, strong middleweight. Probably his best win all things considered.
     
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  9. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  10. Bane

    Bane Let the games begin Full Member

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    He's had 50 fights and holds a 'belt'

    He's not inexperienced.
     
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  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    His prime was pretty much the length of his WBO reign, so he was just about there. Knocking on the door. Far less green than Martinez at any rate. Six years' experience compared to two.
     
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  12. astrojoe86

    astrojoe86 Active Member Full Member

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    I think it will be viewed as a good win and will be classified as great depending on what Chavez Jr accomplishes after. Chavez Jr, although impressive in his last fights, still has an asterick next to his name with the weight issues and not taking tests after fights, IMHO.
     
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  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Outworked, yeah, outlanded, no...at least not with meaningful connects.

    Wins.

    TKO, DQ, decision.. :yep

    Martinez is 3-0 against Cintron.
     
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  14. roversbowers

    roversbowers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Margos prime was not in 2000, other than that you have a fair case
     
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  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Near prime Margarito. He began his world title reign the following year.

    Nowhere near prime Martinez. (who was a late bloomer even after having been a late starter in his pro career)
     
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