Sergio Martinez is the P4P #1

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  1. turk182

    turk182 not newbie Full Member

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    i have martinez @ #2 p4p now above donaire and also floyd due to his inactivity.

    Ring should now revise their p4p ranking since they currently have donaire @ #3 above martinez. i have a feeling that they will still retain floyd as p4p #2 after their next update. floyd after all is still under GBP.
     
  2. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    so putting pac and floyd ahead of martinez on my p4p list is not giving martinez any props? oh ****, this is a martinez is #1 p4p thread so having a different opinion automatically means shitting on martinez right? :patsch :lol:

    or are you just hurt that most people are retaining pac as #1 while many are putting him above floyd due to floyd's inactivity?
     
  3. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    no, like i said, you are so blindly biased, you will always have pac above everyone, no matter the situation
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    that's your opinion of me but you are wrong. i am less biased for pac than you are biased for floyd.

    again, show me where did i not give martinez his props timmy? :D
     
  5. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    the man IS doing more than your current #1...the fact you cannot see that is proof in itself
     
  6. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    oh that thread. :D
     
  7. turk182

    turk182 not newbie Full Member

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    hmm... martinez actually defeated a career light middleweight fighter who was moving up in weight. is this guy even rated @160?

    i think this can even be considered as just a "stay busy" fight for martinez. the guy may be the WBO light middle titlist but still he was moving up in weight. and there are better champs @154 compared to this guy. beating a b-level guy doesn't warrant you the p4p #1 rank above pac.
     
  8. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    ok, i have this as my p4p list.

    1. pac
    2. floyd
    3. martinez
    4. donaire
    5. marquez

    before, i have donaire, martinez and marquez interchangeably at #3 with no problem. martinez beating dzinziruk, would have push him above donaire, imo.

    i also have floyd above martinez not only based on recent accomplishments but i also factor their abilty. so in that sense, you must have seen already that recent accomplishment and resume are not only my criteria in my p4p list.

    but you are here going gung-ho on everyone not making martinez their #1 when you failed to check their reasoning.

    so ok, assuming that you failed to check on my criteria, and let's base it on recent accomplishments. pac did beat cotto, clottey and margarito as his last opponents. martinez has pavlik, williams and dzinziruk. i have cotto more regarded than pavlik, williams over clottey but rate margo as a better win over dzinziruk. but even if you rate dzinziruk win over the margo win, pac was comfortably locked at #1 postion until floyd had beaten mosley. until then, martinez worked his way up the p4p ladder but beating pavlik, williams and dznziruk would not make him pass pac's recent accomplishments and he needs to do more.
     
  9. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    after beating dzinziruk, then he became p4p#1??? wooooowwww!!!!
     
  10. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    can you imagine the ass whipping a 160lb Pac would put on Martinez, or how a 160lb Floyd would take him to school.
     
  11. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vys,

    Any news on your man in the avatar, a future P4P?
     
  12. garfios

    garfios Dark Lord Full Member

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    You r a freaking delusionsl fanatic.
     
  13. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  14. garfios

    garfios Dark Lord Full Member

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    I know is your criteria, but rating Cheato over Dzinruk, is IMO a stretch, specially if you factor the beating that he took from Mosley and his showing before Pacroids fight, the only ability Margs has show post brick hands is how to take a beating, nothing more, and SD is JMW Champ that was undefeated with wins over Joel Julio, Daniel Santos, Thiam and Lujan, they are not all time greats but no soft touch either, and Pac vs Cotto you know he was drained counting that over Martinez vs Williams is plain biased.
    PS. about Fraud you had already stated that you base this on ability, but that has to be show in the ring, against fair competition, not like over weight and smallest fighters (JMM)
     
  15. Sandmanl337

    Sandmanl337 Pactard Full Member

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    Agreed.

    Taking nothing from Martinez.. He dismantled a very good fighter in Dzinziruk, but this win shouldn't make him the pound for pound best.. In fact, he didn't even move on my list.

    01. Pacquiao
    02. Mayweather
    03. Marquez
    04. Donaire
    05. Martinez

    With Mayweather and Marquez both inactive right now, if they continue so, then they could drop down in rankings..