Sergio Martinez Rips Pacquiao: "He Fights No-Hopers"

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  1. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    So essentially you are saying "Im not reasonable", that's cool but in my opinion the man is a not a natural MW and was forced to move up. Because of his move of course he has altered his training, diet, and body to fit the move but he has faught the majority of his time below MW, hence I would consider him a small MW.
     
  2. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    This is why it's hard to like Pacquiao when we got Pacquiao ****** fans kissing his behind. And Martinez speak the truth in which i knew sooner or later he will bash Pacquiao. Lets be real Pacquiao is only facing fighters that has no chance of winning it's that simple.


    1. He's fought a shot in the dark dehydrated De la hoya. The reason why many dummies pick De la hoya to destroyed Pacquiao cause of the size alone. But never once think about Oscar could kill himself badly to make the ww limit in which he hasn't been there in over 8 freaking years. Even Roach admit the only reason he wanted Pacquiao to face De la hoya cause De la hoya is a done shot in the dark fighter.



    2. Hatton was an overrated weak chin 1 dimensional fighter who was already been stop by Mayweather.


    3. Cotto was skinny in that fight thanks to the bs catchweight in which Cotto had trouble with (notice his next after Pacquiao is at jmw)



    3. Clottey. I think that fight was clearly a fix. I mean for real Clottey didn't want to take a risk. He was basically there just for a payday and a good script.


    4. Margarito? lol seriously you *******s are way beyond the word "******". This fight was a joke pure and simple. First off another bs catchweight. And second off Margarito was coming off a bad performance in his last fight vs a bum fighter. And was coming off a last big fight in which he was destroyed completely by Mosley. Oh and stop with "Margarito tko Martinez" cause that fight happen 10 or 11 years ago for f4ck sake.




    ^^^You compare those fighters to Cintron, Williams, Pavlik, Dzin? You *******s are stupid.


    1. Cintron? Sure Margarito tko him twice but so what? Everybody that has a f4cking brain knows Martinez beat Cintron twice in 1 night by ko and a decision.


    2. Pavlik? Many say Pavlik was out of shape or his drinking problems that cause him the Martinez fight. But i call it bs cause even Pavlik said himself that he started drinking since the first Taylor fight.


    3. Williams? Isn't he the same fighter who already beat a prime Margarito?


    4. Dzin? Isn't he the same fighter who was a long reigning champion that most people don't want to fight? And say his jab is a lazor?



    And after the De la hoya fight, has Pacquiao been the underdog vs Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito????


    Was Martinez an underdog vs Cintron, Williams, Pavlik, Dzin?



    Like i said

    Martinez is speaking the truth. There is a reason why Pacquiao has been the favorite over Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito and will about to be a favorite over Mosley.
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Funny how all these *******s have now turned against Martinez just for mentioning Pac's name.:rofl:lol::rofl Just like I said *******s aren't fans of the sport but only fans of one fighter.:deal With the exception of PBF-Pac Pac-Martinez is one of the biggest fights that could be made in boxing.
     
  4. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hatton probably won't make it either.

    The only recent opponent you can say is a sure Hall of Fame fighter is Oscar at a weight he had not fought at in 7 years. We are talking about his recent bouts since he last fought Marquez.

    Diaz, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, and Hatton will more than likely not make the Hall of Fame. I would also like to mention I picked Pacquiao to not just beat these guys, but beat them easily. I am NOT changing my tune after the fact. There was no doubt in my mind about Pacquaio not just beating, but pummeling these fighters into submission.

    My picture with Roach is after the weigh-in for his fight against Diaz at the Mandalay Bay... just FYI. I remember commenting to my girlfriend about how much better Pacquiao looked physically and how he was going to KO Diaz no problem.
     
  5. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't be so sure of that. Cotto already has a good chance of getting in and he's not quite done just yet.
     
  6. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto's only win to TAKE a title is against Yuri Foreman.

    He won't make it and I do not think he is even close. Roger Mayweather had a better career than Cotto in my opinion and he's not in either.
     
  7. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    4 time world champion
    3 weight division champion
    16-2 13 KO's in championship bouts
    13 wins over former or future world champions

    He'll get in.
     
  8. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Black Mamba Roger Mayweather had a better career than Cotto, and he's not in.

    Like I said: His ONLY win against a defending champion is Yuri Foreman. That is it. He is the "vacant belt champion." I like Cotto, but if you let him in, you'd have to let a TON of other guys in as well.

    In fact, another thing against Cotto: He has never been the man of his division. Not even once. I fail to see how a fighter who could never be the best in his own division should be Hall of Fame worthy?
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Correction!!! He won titles at 140 and 147 that were vacant.
     
  10. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All right, I feel like Margarito was never great at 154 and was having problems making 147 anymore, so that catch weight they had the fight at benefited him WAY more than it benefited Pac, he didn't have to lose all the way down to 147, for what was honestly a fight between a real welterweight and a small fake welter (Pac). Every pound above 147 benefitted Tony. The only fighter who I think was adversely affected by the catch weight with Pac was Cotto, taking a man's title at a catch weight is nonsense, but that's the only criticism I am willing to make of Pac. The guys he fights really are the BEST in the division, he just kind of makes them look like no hopers.

    One bad performance does not destroy a fighter (Barrera, Duran, Hearns, Leonard, Ali - all still great after losses, some of them brutal) and Pac gets way too much criticism for beating guys who really were at the top of the division he moved into. So ALL those guys happened to be done at exactly the same time, huh? Welter just got really weak and a joke after being one of the strongest divisions in boxing, when Pac moved up?

    Martinez should be looking at guys like Butte, Ward, middles and supermiddles who can challenge him instead of this nonsense. No one else has one fight at a weight and is then immediately thought to face a champion from the next higher weight class to "prove" himself. What nonsense. Pac should retire because everybody loses eventually, and then people will say, see, he wasn't that great. But he really, really was.
     
  11. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    WOW!!! its funny how you nitpick the flaws of pacs opponent but suddenly went blind with sergio's....:patsch

    Cintron's case, you want to neglect the fact that Margarito beat him twice (with the 'so what?') while sergio wasnt able to finish him...But in P.Will, him beating Margarito is your arguement....:huh:huh

    Cintron - no heart
    Pavlik - alcohol mess
    P.Will - questionable chin
    Dzink - who??? if they dont want to fight him, doesnt mean they're scared...high risk low reward!:deal
    Manfredo - yeah, i guess a much better fight than mosley huh?!:deal

    Its easy to criticize pacs resume when you hate the kid, but if you're a real boxing fan, you would know why pac has a better resume than sergio and there's a good reason why he's the current p4p#1 and FOTD!!!:deal
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You're really reaching here.:patsch
     
  13. El Indio

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    Not even Martinez mother would be that biased.

    Terrible post.
     
  14. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    He said Hatton has weak chin...why? because he got dropped by floyd and pac? well, didn't that happened to P.Will too? Im just doing what he's doing, nitpicking...so you tell rayhogan "You're really reaching here" before you tell that to me...lets see if you are not bias you so called "rreal boxing fan" :lol::rofl
     
  15. AustraHungarian

    AustraHungarian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bottom line Babyface is that Sergio was knocked out by a guy he claims to be a no hoper! I don't hear Pac calling anyone's opposition "no hopers". Maybe Sergio should just just shut the **** up and start focusing on guys in his weight class rather than calling out welterweights for a payday!