Sergio Martinez vs a selection of yesteryears MW's.

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Do you guys think i'm underrating jake's head movement and counter ability?

    That's the difference imo. I see jake as reckless aggression like margarito as opposed to more technically sound aggression like apostoli.

    Am I miles off here?
     
    lufcrazy, Mar 21, 2012
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  2. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Julio Cesar Vasquez > Sergio Martinez :good
     
    sweet_scientist, Mar 22, 2012
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  3. Flea Man

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    Laurent Boudiani (spelling)>Sergio Martinez :deal :D
     
    Flea Man, Mar 22, 2012
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  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Disagree on both counts.
     
    lufcrazy, Mar 22, 2012
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  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Dick Tiger (a glaring omission from the list) would beat this present champion soundly over 15 rounds.
     
    red cobra, Mar 22, 2012
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    In what way is he a glaring omission?

    This isn't a list of the best 12 mw's, it's merely a list of past mw's who have a decent amount of footage and spent a decent amount of time as the best mw in the world.
     
    lufcrazy, Mar 22, 2012
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  7. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't see Martinez having much more ability than the Winky Wright that got a working over by Vasquez. Hits a bit harder, but that's about it.
     
    sweet_scientist, Mar 22, 2012
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  8. McGrain

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    I wouldn't pick the Martinez so thoroughly troubled by Macklin to beat any of those guys. But I think he could be a troubling opponent for just about anyone during a busy MW run in his own right. A good opponent for just about anyone.
     
    McGrain, Mar 22, 2012
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  9. thejokerswild

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    Very ugly fight, I thought his fight with macklin was very vain as well. Dancing around. NO hands acting like he could finish him at any time. Not many champs on the list have that much smoke up their ass.
     
    thejokerswild, Mar 22, 2012
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  10. lufcrazy

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    The winky wright that lost to vasquez was nowhere near the finished article. I'd pick martinez to handily outpoint him.

    The version of sweet pea that beat vasquez would really struggle against today's version of martinez also.
     
    lufcrazy, Mar 23, 2012
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  11. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah Winky developed a better defense and got stronger. But it's not like Martinez's defense or his strength is near the level Wright developed to anyway, so I don't see that as being relevant.

    I agree that Whitaker would struggle against Martinez though. Whitaker was clever enough to befuddle Vasquez but against a more atheltically gifted fighter the extra pounds would really show on him.
     
    sweet_scientist, Mar 23, 2012
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  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    WTF??? You don't think that includes Dick Tiger????:patsch
     
    red cobra, Mar 23, 2012
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  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Do you get off on putting words in people's mouths or something?

    I never said it didn't include tiger. There are a lot of guys I could have included but I just picked 12 of them.

    If it bothers you that much, make your own thread :-(
     
    lufcrazy, Mar 23, 2012
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  14. thejokerswild

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    Bhop vs martinez. 2 improvise based styles. Interesting match up I'd say in Bhops favour.
     
    thejokerswild, Mar 23, 2012
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  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I'm caught on this one. Martinez fights similar to a southpaw roy jones.

    I think martinez would rack up an early lead but hopkins would eventually begin to time him.

    Close fight. Maybe a draw.
     
    lufcrazy, Mar 23, 2012
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