Sergio Martinez vs Darren Barker in October.

Geale and Sturm said no according to the scene.

 

DiBella sucks the TV money tete and his boxers usually have no following making them poor choices for most people that can draw. Say what you will about Sturm, he draws in Germany and Martinez brings nothing to the table.

 

Pirog is still ****ing green, he beat a prospect in danny jacobs thats all and you people are hailing him as the second coming, Martinez has like 2 and half times as many fights as Pirog. If Martinez can still make 154 which I doubt he wants to do there is plenty of fights there, Cotto and Vanes. 160 is pretty dried up although a Martinez vs Chavez jr would be pretty one sided. I can see him taking a catchweight fight with arthur abraham maybe at 164 or grow a pair and do a full move up to 168, there really is not many fights at 160, I mean come on, he's fighting more Euro champions. Nonito moves up in weight and fights p4p fights and yet Martinez is above him in the ring rankings, pathetic.

 

160 is a young division, Martinez is like a demigod at 160 right now, he has like twice as many fights as the young contenders, I guess he could fight them now but what would be the point except for a quick night and a good payday.

 

Why is "p4p fights" plural here? Are you seriously suggesting that Sydorenko is a top pound-for-pound fighter?

 

This.

And he's quoted saying Pac & Floyd cherrypicks. What is he doing now?

 

everyone is avoiding him martinez isnt cherrypicking, the only guy you can seriously claim they are ducking is pirog but besides him martinez fights everyone.

 

He's said repeatedly that he could for Cotto, Pacquiao, or Mayweather. No point in boiling down for good though when he'd be just as avoided down there as he has been at middleweight. Also, what money fight above middleweight are you referring to?

 

Whatever. The world champ VS the undefeated European champ. :conf Khan/McCloskey, yeah?

 

No, he refused to fight Pac unless it was at 155 or up. Pavlik would be a money fight at 164.

 

Anyone that has Martinez above Nonito is just plain wrong. Sergio is not that good.

 

It looks like Dibella will do what ever he can to avoid Pirog. Nor did I see him mention Golovkin on his list. GGG's been trying to get a fight with Dibella's boy Manfredo for a year now. I do agree that it was a good strategic move by Lou though. Keep Martinez safe from Pirog, and insure Manfredo a title shot vs Chavez (I'm picking Manfredo to beat Chavez, interesting b/c Roach used to train Manfredo).

As far as anyone saying Pirog blew it with his last outing, check out Barker vs Afif Belghechem. Barker is not worthy of a title shot by far. Macklin and Lee would destroy the Dazzler. For that matter McEwan would best him too.

 

Geesh, I feel like I'm talking to Boo again. He said 156 in the immediate aftermath of the Williams win but has repeatedly indicated that he would be willing to go to 154 since then.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ill-he-ever-face-cotto-mayweather-or-pacquiao
There's loads more too.

I also have no idea why you think Pavlik is the same draw now that he was previously, why you think he can even make 164 (boo said he could only go to 168 ), and why you think it's worthwhile for Martinez to completely **** away his chance at a fight with Chavez, Cotto, or Mayweather to fight a guy he already beat.

 

You watch how Dibella moves his figthers, with no confidence. Jermain Taylor fought a string of bs fights on his way to the title, then after he wins, back to jr middle weights the whole way til he finally fought a real mw in Pavlik. Then look how Lou moved Berto. Constantly alternating between jr welters and mid level welters. Now Martinez who came out of obscurity and uspest Williams and Pavlik, gets the same formula. Dzinziruik, an inactive jr middle, and now a weak euro to follow, after that it'll be the winner of Manfredo/Chavez, not exactly top comp.

Too bad, b/c middle has some really good fighters too. Lou says Sturm is avoiding them, but who knows how that negotition really went. They probably threw out a crap offer, less than what Sturm can make at home. I'd pick Sturm over Martinez. Good defense, strong jab, and he's not a small mw either. People forget Pavlik was beating Martinez til he hit the wall in the 9th being weight drained.

 

Golovkin can't fight in the US until after November and DiBella has a legitimate beef with the WBO. Even if you think Martinez should fight Pirog regardless, he hardly has the kind of resume that makes him anything like an obvious opponent for Martinez. He's probably a moderate risk but brings absolutely no reward whatsoever (less so than even Barker in my opinion).

I don't like the Barker fight, but it seems to me that DiBella is simply trying to force Chavez to have to fight Manfredo by taking away his other major option.