Sergio Martinez wants drug testing, Chavez jr. rejects it

I'm on the fence. Both sides have valid arguments. Still, the demand came out of left field a bit.

Who knows, maybe Chavez Jr. said no cause he still wants to drink and/or get high while in training camp! :yep

 

Homeboy looks like he cheating. why martinez should give him advantage.

 

Ariza camp is filthy... Pacquiao too is dirty. It just does NOT make sense that Manny can be that dominant. It's one thing to win... it's another to make 165lb elite fighter's look like amateurs who fear your 143lb pound punch. BULL****.... PEDs.

 

But of course, the WBC rules also state that Chavez only keeps the belt in June if Martinez consents. They're not fighting on that date not because of the drug testing issue but because Arum/Chavez/Beltran don't want to. If however Martinez refuses to allow Chavez another defense because there's no agreement on bloodtesting in September, then Chavez should be stripped and it still looks like it is he who does not want the fight.

 

Well, at least you have finally brought something to the table. I wasn't aware of those stipulations. The problem here is Sergio has stated, no testing, no fight. He has pretty much given up his mandatory position by doing so. If he backs off of it and tries to force the June fight, then the WBC can say, WTF? If you can fight in June without testing, you can fight in September without testing. Nope, he didn't chose his words wisely. He still has no clout on the testing.

 

With or without drugs, Martinez likely stops this cheating fraud.

 

You still sound butt-hurt from Sergio slashing up your boyfriend's face. Calling him overrated, talking trash about him not really wanting a fight...Pavlik put you up to this?

 

The June date had nothing to do with Martinez though. A Murray contract was already written up and even after that fell through, Arum had already proclaimed that Martinez wouldn't be the fight on that date before his own statements today. By the WBC's own rules, Chavez should be stripped if he takes a voluntary unless he can comes to an arrangement with Martinez/DiBella.

If Martinez's statements were as damning as you're making them out to be, the logical move for Top Rank would be to attempt to make the fight now and when drug testing halts negotiations, win the purse bid and force Martinez to put up without the tests or shut up. Instead however they've opened themselves up to having Chavez stripped, largely because they don't think WBC rules and regulations are not worth the paper they're written on. I'm inclined to agree, which is why I'm also not about to criticize Martinez for demanding tests above the norm of someone who's come back positive once before.

 

Yup he is playing by chavez rules with getting a much smaller split (should be 50/50) and i bet chavez will have advantage in ring size and the choice of the gloves. All Martinez ask for is olympic drug testing but of his asking, you bashing Martinez from left field. If Khan who also works with Roach agree to Peterson demand of olympic drug test then why cant Chavez who was a cruiserweight on fight night vs Rubio agree to do the drug testing? Mayweather vs Cotto, Khan vs Peterson rematch and Berto vs Ortiz rematch are all taking olympic drug testing in which Martinez is following what they are doing.

 

Also what martinez is doing is simple if chavez does plan on taking another tune up fight then martinez wants chavez jr to agree on the olympic drug testing for the september showdown or be stripped. <<<I think its more then fair believe it or not.

 

I at least understand why he THOUGHT he might have leverage now. But, in reality, he doesn't. Didn't the WBC already give its blessing to an interim defense? I don't pay too much attention to them but that seems to stick in my mind. Hadn't they already pushed Sergio aside anyhow? I've already stated I'd be surprised if Jr came back clean as a whistle. I don't disagree with testing. My point is simply that none of this is new to Sergio. It was all in place when he called Jr out and was basically demanding the fight. He knew, or should have known then, that he could not impose this testing on the 'champ' so this kind of 'out of the blue' refusal to fight without it is puzzling to say the least. That is why I'm wondering if he really wants the fight or if he thinks he can actually force the title to be vacated. The funny thing here is this actually puts the WBC in a strange situation. Can they let someone fighting for their titles to dictate the testing procedures? Nevada has already said this type of testing simply isn't feasible and dropped Mayweather's request to have it instated. My guess is that the WBC would say they can't have fighters dictating to local commissions and declare Sergio ineligible on those grounds if he won't fight without the extra testing. That would make things interesting. Again, I really think Sergio is handling this badly.

 

Like it or not, Chavez is the champ and Sergio called him out. If this goes to purse bid there is NO negotiations at all. 50/50? It is Jr putting the ass in the seats and having the Mexicans buying the PPVs. That is pretty much fact. Sergio only brings HBO money which will not be biggest part of the pot by a long ways. I'm not bashing Sergio. I am questioning if he ever really wanted this fight given that stipulation though. My opinion.

 

I still don't and never will understand the reluctance any boxer has in undergoing some simple ass random drug testing. It gains no one an advantage. What's the big freakin' deal?

 

You forgot to mention that the wbc at first demand chavez to fight martinez but then lie to martinez in which chavez instead fought rubio. Its been clear as day that Martinez wants to fight Chavez Jr in which i guess you didnt read correctly in Martinez statement about the drug testing. He said he read Chavez team terms and has no problem with the offer but wants to have an offer on his own with the drug testing. I bet my money that team chavez jr low ball martinez with like 20 percent of the split in which chavez jr have been wanting. <<<If thats the case hermit then dont u think it should be fair that martinez ask for olympic drug testing if martinez only gets 20 percent of the split with chavez choice of ring size and choose of the gloves? Plus Chavez Jr again is going to fight another bs tune up fight.

 

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