Sergio Martinez would school Kelly Pavlik

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BigBone, Dec 7, 2009.


  1. Spunik

    Spunik Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,967
    2
    Dec 6, 2008
    Hopefully Pavlik comes back with his head on straight....I don't think Martinez would school him at all.... Big difference in size and stength between B-Hop and Martinez not to mention skill....
     
  2. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

    9,873
    2
    Nov 9, 2007
    No way ... Can't believe you wrote all that lol ...

    The simple fact Is that defense beats pavlik , and Martinez lacks in that department. The guy has amazing physical gifts , bit only really started fighting at age 21 , and the lack of fundamental defense shows .
     
  3. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,903
    259
    Jul 19, 2004
    There is no way Martinez was going to be an easy fight for Williams. Williams was the favorite and Martinez made it closer than expected but I don't know anyone who thought it would be a walk over.
     
  4. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

    27,003
    132
    Nov 22, 2008
    Martinez got hit plenty against PTP, but Pavlik's punches would be easier for him to evade than Paul's punches.
     
  5. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

    22,780
    350
    Aug 26, 2006
    You don't think Martinez have very good defense? If not then don't watch another boxing fights again seriously. Martinez is a very good slick (defensive) fighter. The reason Williams hit Martinez with alot of shots which is hard or not is cause of Williams style that throws every angles that most a fighter won't see it coming. Pavlik throws alot of punches but mostly is straight punches that a fighter like Martinez can see. Pavlik has the advantage over Martinez in power but only power most of the time vs a slick fighter won't win the fight. Do me a favor watch Martinez vs Cintron (who hits way harder then Williams btw) and you tell me Martinez is not a good defensive fighter.
     
  6. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,995
    0
    Dec 27, 2007
    pavlik hits hard enough to ko sergio....u don't get it...ask jermain and miranda and zuniga how hard he hits...and how do u know this....he has ko'd virtually everyone....the bhop fight was at 170...he was sick and u can say it is an excuse but if it is fact the fight is tarnished....not to take away from BHOP who beats him anyway but do noit think a 154 lb untested gassed out fighter can just duplicate what bhop did....i like william over pavlik but not sergio
     
  7. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,995
    0
    Dec 27, 2007
    martinez is good defensively for sure but he is still smaller than KP and would be worn down IMO...it only takes one when u have as limited opponents as sergio...although he is still a relative enigma and maybe he is that good
     
  8. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

    9,873
    2
    Nov 9, 2007
    Haha don't try and lecture me on boxing , I have actually been in the ring before , doubt you have even been in a boxing gym. Martinez has good defense but was getting hit with some punches from Paul that were telegraphed . He had problems with the pressure and siZe of Williams , even after Paul slowed down . Pavlik presents too many problems for him.

    Martinez cannot mimic in the slightest what Hopkins did to pavlik , and he doesn't have the Power to keep pavlik off him. Btw paul's defense is crap compared to pavlik , Williams doesn't block anything , where as pavlik knows how to keep his hands up . You just can't admit that the fighter who just ****ed Williams up would lose to pavlik ... And as for your boy Williams , he won't get in the ring with pavlik , he'll claim pavlik doesn't want to fight him and then won't sign a fight with pavlik .
     
  9. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,995
    0
    Dec 27, 2007
    wow lack of fundamental defense...hmmmmm he has looked great to me every fight on defense
     
  10. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,995
    0
    Dec 27, 2007
    why do u think williams won't fight pavlik??? he already signed to fight him...EVERYONE thinks any decent fighter can just do what BHOP did at 170....**** I like PW and KP not sure who I want to win
     
  11. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

    22,780
    350
    Aug 26, 2006
    You know what if Williams does have more months off then i hope Pavlik vs Martinez happen and i'm willing to bet on money, avatar bets that Martinez will easily and i mean "easily" beat Pavlik. Yes Pavlik hits harder then Williams but he's not fast like Williams and doesn't throw every angles like Williams. Look Cintron hits 10 times harder then Williams and everybody beside ******ed judges thought Martinez easily beat Cintron.
     
  12. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,995
    0
    Dec 27, 2007
    mayweather is the only guy who PW would not hit alot
     
  13. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

    9,873
    2
    Nov 9, 2007
    His defense is his offense , against pavlik and even Williams , he can't do that .. Williams landed rights and lefts on him and Many times he walked into punches and even rolled into them. That's a lack of fundamental defense , sure he uses good movement , but on the inside , where it counts , his defense was not impressive .. His chin held up against Williams , it probably won't against pavlik
     
  14. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,995
    0
    Dec 27, 2007
    pleased stop comparingcintron to pw...while he does hit harder allegedly he throw 60 punches less a rd and gets ko'd when he gets hit and gasses.....EASILY lol...Martinez over PAVLIK easily....for an avatar bet...define easily
     
  15. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

    9,873
    2
    Nov 9, 2007
    Because he and his trainer have both said that fight is dead to them ... They think pavliks health issues were imaginary ... Even though it was well documented in public records that he almost died in the hospital