Sergio Mora vs. Alfredo Angulo

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Latin Snake or El Perro?

Poll closed Apr 6, 2018.
  1. Mora on points

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  2. Mora by stoppage

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  3. Draw

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  4. Angulo on points

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  5. Angulo by stoppage

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    This has quietly sneaked its way onto the Hurd vs. Lara undercard this coming Saturday, and there hasn't been a single thread made on it. Frankly this is gob-smacking fight, to me. A decade ago when both were at the zenith of their respective hype parabolas, it would have been a headliner on HBO and yielded arguably "the man" at 154lb (depending on timing; if wedged between Viper I and II for certain), knocking on the door of p4p top 15. Now, at super middleweight, it serves as just a bizarre sideshow act swept under the rug and 4th-billed (I'm not even sure it will be televised on the main card on Showtime, instead of relegated to a ShoX or internet stream undercard) over a scheduled eight rounds.

    Neither has fought since late summer of 2016 (El Perro losing to Freddy "El Riel" Hernández on August 27th, and The Latin Snake losing the Danny Jacobs rematch barely two weeks later on September 9th) and neither has won a match since 2015. Angulo is 2-2 at super middle, with stoppage victories over journeymen Héctor Muñoz and Delray Raines and unanimous decision losses to Hernández and James de la Rosa. Mora has weighed more than 160lbs on about half a dozen occasions, mostly victories over journeymen (the most notable being Dashon Johnson) as well as his first loss to Bryan Vera.

    They couldn't possibly be any more different in their styles. :lol: I'm laughing hysterically just typing out that understatement. This is beyond just a boxer vs. puncher match-up; this is a guy that embodies, impeccably, and to a fault, comically, all the virtues and foibles of a "boxer" vs. a guy that embodies, impeccably, and to a fault, comically, all the virtues and foibles of a "puncher".

    Mora lays claim to perhaps the better recent form, giving Jacobs a hard time in at least their first encounter and punching his ticket into that opportunity by taking a split decision over prospect/contender Abie Han in late 2015. Even his upset of Grzegorz Proksa in 2013 stands as more significant than anything done by Angulo in six years, if not longer (depending on whether you rate a UD over Jorge Silva higher than Proksa; if not you have to reach all the way back to when Angulo was beating the likes of Alcine or Julio). That said, Mora in his prime relied heavily on two key attributes: his sturdy chin and his slippery awkwardness. These would seem to have some extent abandoned him of late, as Mora has been put on the deck nine times in his last four outings (seven at the hands of Jacobs, once each by Abie Han and Dashon Johnson) - and they say power is the last to go, while Angulo was blessed with plenty of it.

    This is a weird fight. I'm weirdly excited for it.
     
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  2. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    I like Mora on points. Angulo has just taken too much punishment over the years.
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yeah but if he can force a free-for-all early on he could plunk Mora down. Angulo has always been dangerous early, and if Mora (ever a slow-starter and losing a bit of his mobility and punch resistance) isn't careful it could be over before he knows what's happening. That said, Angulo's gas tank is awful, so if Mora is able to avoid bombs and just spoil for a few rounds, clinch and wrestle, he can tire out Angulo enough to probably stop him in the mid-late rounds (and the indignity of getting knocked out by a relative feather-fist like Mora would/should be the wake-up call for Angulo to just retire)
     
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  4. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mora should win. SHOULD being the key word. Curious to see how much Angulo still has though. I don't think he's title-shot worthy, but he can still be in some decent bouts for another year or so.
     
  5. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    And its an 8 rounder...
    Both should retire but hey, if they want to go on then why not fight each other? It should be a good fight.

    I remember Mora threatening to retire if he doesn't get a big fight. Then Jacobs flattened him, yet here we are.

    And damn, they both are on a similarly long layoff. Mora at 19 months and Angulo at 18.
    Should be interesting to see if either has benefited from the break. And i am willing to bet on ring rust making this an even better fight that it would otherwise have been.
     
  6. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Mora is my go to guy when discussing horrible to watch but effective fighters.
     
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  7. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Saying Angulo took too much punishment is right but Mora also. He was down like seven times vs Jacobs in two fights and also was rocked and knocked down by Dashon Johnson and Abraham Han. He was down in nearly every fight he fought since 2015.

    I think Mora took more punishment than Angulo. I can remember the Lara fight couple of years ago, ANgulo is dangerous guy and i predict an early Knockout for him here.
     
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  8. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    btw the betting odds on Angulo are fkn unreal! Have to take this big.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Daaaaaamn.
     
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  10. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Both shot, but Mora is still to slick.
     
  11. Sphillips

    Sphillips Active Member Full Member

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    Angulo is finished.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Odds:
    Mora -535
    Angulo +385
     
  13. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    mora wins rather easily . angulo is done, has been done.
     
  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I have no idea why Angulo is such an underdog here, its perplexing, yes Angulo lost to Freddy Hernandez, well who say Mora could beat him either? Clearly Hernandez takes a punch better north of 160, and what weight will this be happening? 160 or above? That could also be a factor.
     
  15. El Chicano

    El Chicano Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Mora Ud12

    And im confident

    Always felt Angulo was rated a bit too high by some, he wasn't even as good as Prime Margarito. And hes a shell of what he was

    Mora is a decent boxer and less damged