Serious Frank Warren discussion (mods don't delete this)

The bottom line is that boxing is a professional sport and Frank Warren is a businessman. His boxers are an asset and he makes a lot of money from them for very little risk most of the time. If money is your god then it makes perfect sense.

 

Fwank took Boxing away from terrestrial tv for CASH.. Sky Paid him a reported £50M to put on great shows.

THEN.. Fwank pissed them off with a lot of rubbish shows.

Then he goes back to ITV and pisses them off while slagging off SKY.

Now he is at Setanta and will **** that up as well.

Look at the UFC and what they do, the best fight the best an thats all you need to get the people to watch! Bow to the King! Praise me, its the thing to do.

 

How do we know the guys In the UFC who fight each other are the best fighting the best?

 

Is Max Molyneux in fact Frank Warren in disguise?

 

from watching UFC shows, forming an opinion of the abilities of each fighter and then watching those who appear to be the best fight each other.

there is probably an element of the more marketable exciting fighters getting more air-time but you don't get the situation where the number 1 and 2 of a division don't face each other.

 

It really depends what you are looking at. FW slagging off Haye did not make him look good. In my opinion Sports Network only made the fight the Haye versus Macccarinelli fight because they thought Haye would be dead at the weight. I know Enzo Maccarinelli had improved but those in the know knew that if Haye was okay then the fight was an execution as was Pavlik versus Lockett. If Haye and Audley Harrisson had signed with him then he would not have criticised them theway he has over the years.

Pavlik versus Lockett was a very bad idea and quite frankly everyone knew it. I am not convinced they are actually keen on Calzaghe versus Pavlik for obvious reasons.

 

Warren made Burno vs McCall remember, probs one of the best ever british fights moments.

 

Good point regarding McCall.

Bruno lacked the mental strength in my opinion to beat Tyson, and hated (or appeared to) the big stage.

 

And Bruno was beating Lewis until the chin went skyward and the arms to the side.

I have never seen a top level fighter with such low ring savvy as Bruno, not having a clue what to do once hit on the chin - surely his trainer or someone could have drummed it into him, when you feel you are ready to be KO'd, go down and take ten to clear, or simply hold on like ****.

 

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Too true mate, as soon as Bruno got nailed it looked as though he just wanted to stand there and take punches.

Against Lewis, me and my mates were all pro Bruno and were thinking he was on the way to a win then the usual happens, gets nailed with a decent punch and acts like a rabbit in the headlights. After years of fighting you would think he would learn how to hold on when hurt.

Still think Bruno is underated these days, if around just now he could easily have a decent title reign imo.

 

lockett was a mandatory and it was john duddy who eventually made bob arum decide to venture to lockett. plus gary had been offered abraham and turned it own so warren really fed him to the lion.

Lacy fight was down to lacy and shaw as joe already pulled out thru inury, i feel it was lacy's ambition and flexability in coming to the UK which made the fight.

Again Kessler wanted joe and wanted the fight so it wasnt hard to make. 50/50 as i think i heard joe accepted mogens offer to fight in denmark but then the millenium stadium was chosen and kessler agreed to fight there.

Hopkins had really eliminated all other competition in the US, in addition JT was fighting KP, dawson - johnson and woods - tarver. GBP did well in setting up the fight, joe had no choice but to go to the US. it was joes wins that got this fight not warrens negotiating skills as seen before when they previously tried to get B-hop in the ring.

Haye destroyed enzo, and ridiculed warren and sports network when they offered him skelton. good on haye i say, he made it the hard way by becoming a legit mandatory and going to paris to KO mormeck. since then he stuck his 2 fingers up to warren and signed in partnership with GBP and setanta sports.

Chagaev was lookin for a warmup or mediocre oponnent for his ring rust return. it was either gonna be skelton, sprott, williams etc. i mean warren was promising fight after fight the winner would get a world title shot and nothing came, until this.


M'baye and rees should never have been sanctioned by the WBA, rees was not a 140lbr let alone ranked anywhere by the WBA. both were promoted by warren at the time and it was ridiculous. all said and done, well done to ress. so this was easy for warren to make, he should make his own belt up really......oh he already has the FWO sorry WBO.

he has some top fighters n his ranks. but milks them and this hinders there money making, their reputations an chances in the port. khans contract is up after the gomez fight, lets see what happens as i so hope he signs with hayemaker promotions or GBP.

 

I think Khan is getting too big for his boots at the moment, and that will be the reason why he will leave Sports Network

Right decision, but wrong reasons!

 

come on people he's responsible for the skelton-williams-sprott-harrison merry go round which ruined the spirt when televised in the UK!! and to top it off he tried to get haye in on the act!! HOF my ass