All I have seen of Kimbo are his god awful youtube back yard fights and a couple of appearances inside a cage. These clips make him look like a real monster and a dangerous MMA fighter but I really doubt this is the case. I mean sure if he was waiting in the super market car park wanting to **** me I would be scared but I can not see him causing any true decent MMA star much problems. So is he a potential MMA great or just a circus attraction that will be milked by his promoters putting him in with random jokes like Thompson? How would he fare in UFC against a rated heavy? Thanks.
No. He'll always be a guy who is carefully managed. Once his hype is gone, he has nothing. Any legit HW would know to let him punch himself out and then destroy him.
There has been some improvement on Slice's part: improved cardio, ground game,etc. But at 34, just gettting started basically in the sport....I really don't think that Kimbo is going to be able to improve at a rate where he is going to be ready for anyone of note in MMA for at least a couple of years or more. My thinking is that he isn't going to progress to much more than a dangerous standup guy who is a "smaller" heavyweight.
Thompson had him down helpless and pounding him repeatedly in the head. If he faces any top 10 Heavy he would be quickly finished. Nogueira would take him down and submit him, Fedor would take him down and smash the **** out of his face...and then submit him, Arlovski would KO him standing...etc etc etc
I agree with everything except the last. Arlovski might KO him standing OR he might BE KO'd standing with Kimbo. Arlovski doesn't have the best beard himself....his best bet would be to put Slice on the ground.
Ok you're right, he would be safer on the ground with him. But I think Kimbo's striking will be badly exposed once he faces a top striker. Arlovski, while his chin may not be the strongest, is levels above Kimbo in striking. :deal
Brock takes him down in an instant.. Too much strength and weight, Kimbo has no ground skills either, I'm willing to bet a Brock stoppage here.
There's no doubt in my mind that Brock Lesnar would brutalize Kimbo. Thompson has **** for wrestling, and managed to take Kimbo down and control him. Lesnar would shoot a double leg, hammer Kimbo into the cage, and use his superior strength to pummell him. He was taking it to Frank Mir and would have stopped the fight, had he not been facing a world-class Jits fighter. Kimbo is no Frank Mir. He doesn't know a toe hold from triple toe loop.
Because the media is portraying him as the Mike Tyson of MMA. He's been featured in all of the most respected papers in the country, been on the cover of ESPN magazine as well as having his own documentary. He headlined the most watched MMA fight in MMA history. Many misinformed people in the US think he's a great fighter. Maybe if a barefisted fighting traveler with a 3-0 boxing record was worsipped by the British print and digital press you'd understand.
It's insane how much attention Kimbo has been getting. The cover of Sports Illustrated, write-ups in just about ever major fight magazine, appearing at the Country Music Awards Show, e.t.c. Totally unbelievable and undeserved. I'm only a very casual MMA observer, as boxing is my sport, but I can't believe a guy like Kimbo walks in off the street and from day one is basically a star. How well known was Kimbo prior to his fight with Mercer? I mean, were his Youtube fights a sensation with people across America and the world; were people talking about this Kimbo Slice for years, months, e.t.c.? I'm trying to gauge how his popularity becamse so entrenched that he could walk into MMA and be a star like that. I recall running across a few of his Youtube videos well before he entered MMA, but I don't remember anybody ever talking about this guy. I'm just trying to get a perspective on Kimbo and how he got so famous so fast...... Anybody?
We all thought he was being carefully managed with the chinny James Thompson, but he almost lost (Thompson had him up against the cage, with the crucifix position, but wasn't letting the fists fly! WTF is wrong with this guy!). Ferguson ended up winning, but I see him losing the first time he steps in with a top-10 Heavyweight. Any one of them. Even Brock Lesnar!:yep
