Serious question about Manny Pacquiao....

In your eyes yeah

Other people think "Well Mayweather had agreed to the 50/50 before, why is he not agreeing to it now? Why can't he accept this like he did before? So making the fight happen depends on Floyd negotiating something different to what he agreed before"

You see how it can be twisted?

Oh and before you say it, no I'm afraid the May/Mosley 1.4 buys compared to Pac/Clottey 0.7, is a futile and irrelevant task. You're not comparing apples with apples here, as the circumstances (opponent, time-frame, relevance of fight etc) are incomparable.

My view is this: I'm against ridiculous (unwarranted) demands that put this bout in jeapordy. Whether it's baseless PED accusations resulting in excessive testing, or unfair 60/40 splits. The latter is what we're concerned about in this topic, and it is this split which is heavily decreasing the chances of making this fight happen; therefore I as a fan am against this.

50/50 is much more workable, and that's the route I'd like to see pursued.

 

He has no justification.

 

You would like 50/50 pursued?

Do you understand anything about business? Seriously, do you understand?

Why did Pac let Oscar have the bigger split?
Why did Floyd let Oscar have the bigger split?
Why did Hopkins let Oscar have the bigger split?

 

Honestly he doesnt need to justify nothing, Floyd is not going to make this kind of money fighting anybody else, and at tne end of the day thats what Floyd fights for, Money!
So if Floyd wants some Manny Pacquiao cash... He is going to have to agree sooner or later....

 

To answer the question why did he agree before. It quite simple. He had less bargaining power, considering pac did big ppv numbers with cotto and floyd did less with marquez. 50/50 was about right considering mayweather ppv numbers with dela hoya and hatton, which was both better than pac's numbers with the same opponents.

Flash forward to May 1st.

Now mayweather does 1.4 million buys which doubles pac buys against clottey which was at 700k. People may well say pac had no dance partner. Yet in reality it was pac who chose to break away from the original negotiations which was 50/50 and it was pac who agreed to fight clottey instead.

Pac weakened his position once mayweather DOUBLED him at the box office.

50/50 is not fair at this point.

 

at the end of the day.... pacquiao will be the reason this fight will fall apart

he does not deserve 50%

 

to those who say Manny Pacquiao doesnt deserve 50% if you were Manny would you still feel the same.......?
Now answer the quesiton and try your best not to lie....!

 

bottomline is team pac know that they have made A BIG MISTAKE in walking away from the first deal.

and now they are bargaining their way out so that they can fight cotto and margocheato, and bob arum gets to eep all his money.

if margo has the same contract as pac, that means if these two fought that arum will get 54% of that revenue.


arum is wise enough and selfish enough to know he can keep his money and get pac a divional title in 8 weight classes.

 

If i was manny i would know i don't deserve 50/50 right now. But I would still ask for it. Manny knew he risked losing a future 50/50 agreement once the first negotiations fell through and both men went on to face their next opponents.

Pac got destroyed at the box office.

Actually lets flip it, if it was pac who did 1.4 against mosley and mayweather did 700k against clottey. You honestly believe PAC would agree to 50/50. Pac would want the bigger share.

 

Floyd is only proven to be a DOMESTIC or US PPV Draw that is only SLIGHTLY higher than Manny.

The fact of the matter is Manny is by all accounts the face of boxing.....not just in the US but WORLD WIDE. The fact that Floyd can create an atmostphere to capture the attention of the US puplic with his flamboyant personality only suggest that he's a great self promoter.

But who else can EITHER one of these men fight who can breat the 2 million mark?:think Anyone? :verysad So if neither guy can generate this kind of buzz without one anther and neither guy is THAT holds that much of a signifigant advantage in terms of PPV buys then it's a clear case that an even split is fair.

Which is why Manny didn't play the card Floyd is now playing with comparing the two most recent PPV events. Of course Floyd did better numbers with Shane than PAC did with Josh. And Floyd is playing the hand that b/c his numbers where bigger he's now wanting the lions share.

Manny didn't do that when his numbers with Cotto were bigger than Floyds with JMM. Manny wanted to make the fight and GAVE Floyd 50/50.....then Floyd came out with Olympic style testing demands that were based on accusations he couldn't support with any evidence.

now the obstacle in making this fight reality has once again came by way of Floyd and his demands that seem to be on going. Which makes it seem he doesn't want the fight. 50/50 is fair...But I just hope the fight happens.

 

sigh.... another Joy boy circle jerk to defend their boy's cowardice. tedious....

 

Manny IS NOT the face of boxing :deal

 

Lol I think I'm in a better position at understanding business than most, so careful who you direct that question to.

When determining purse splits etc, past numbers alone are not the be all reason used to justify how much should be distributed. Both tangible and intangible assets of the fighters need to be considered. In regards to the issue of Pac/May, when you lay out all of these assets on the table, you'll find they bring almost 50/50 to the table. They're a perfect match for one another, and will not enjoy the same returns from any other bout.

Floyd and Manny realized this last time round, hence their agreement with 50/50. Mark my words, 50/50 will be agreed upon again.