I feel you on that. Bottom line is EVERYONE is a bit on edge regarding this fight due to how things have played out....of course we have Fans/Fanatics on both sides who are very head strong about who is right and wrong, but at the end of the day all of this bantering and arguing is building a lot of anticipation. So lets hope everyone isn't in for a major let down if these two can't reach an agreement. B/c I sure as hell don't want anther year of seeing all this **** regurgitated by the same people over and over again.:bart
atsch Thats not the point...The point is he wanted more money...He was about to let the fight not go through because he felt like he was the bigger draw...It was nothing more than a ploy to get more money...Me personally I do understand Manny for doing this...This is the exact same situation.
How can you say Manny is the smaller draw? It has no validity. Who can say that people didn't buy the fight because of the opponent they each fought? When you order a fight it does not ask you did you buy this fight for Floyd or for Shane or Manny or for Oscar etc.. You would have to see 1000's of different fights to say who is the bigger draw. You also don't know the promotion budget and competition during the fights etc... So saying Floyd is a bigger draw is absurd. Especially when his fights are hardly sold out and usually occur in vegas where many people get comped tickets. Manny already budged to take blood tests. Manny during last negotiations was not fighter of the decade now he is. Floyd also won as he was expected to against Shane Mosley but did got rocked. (Average age of Floyd's last 5 opponents is 37.5) After the fight the line on Mayweather vs Manny went from Manny +200 down to Manny +125. Everything NOW officially points to Manny as the clear cut P4P #1 from the boxing world who awarded him Fighter of the Decade, to fighters themselves who see Manny as the fastest and most dangerous fighter today. The only group of people who do not accept that Manny took the #1 crown from PBF are Floyd's family and fans. At the end of the day while Floyd was gone Manny earned the title. If Floyd wants it back or wants any claim to be P4P #1 and higher than Manny in history he has to fight Manny and win. Manny is acknowledging Floyd is one of the greats why he agreed to the tests and offered an even split --Manny is a class act. Deal is there. Floyd gets the blood. Manny loses that issue. Even split against the P4P #1 Fighter of the decade seems like a fair deal to the world. I am sure he will come back with another demand about the brand of glove Manny can wear.
Right. One argument is backed up with facts and numbers. The other argument is backed up with... nothing of substance.
So Floyd accepted 50/50 but in the space of one fight, where Pacquiao fought a complete nobody from Ghana and Mayweather fought a long established name from America results in a 10% purse swing? The last two fights did nothing to make either guy a bigger draw, so why the change in stance?
1000s of fights???? WTF u smoking?? :nut You forget this is a business. The best way to determine their value/worth is by comparing their #s...it may not be a perfect mechanism to determine who infact is the bigger draw, it it is a damn good one. And since all we're concerned here are PPV #s, because that is the main source of revenue, it's what we need to go based on.. ...and the story the PPV #s tell is that Floyd has brought more revenue than Pac has. Fortunately these two fighters have an even better comparison...they have both fought 3 common opponents. And guess what!!! The ONLY, ONLY TIME they were close in #s with their common opponents was against RICKY HATTON... This content is protected :deal Against DLH, Mayweather's #s TOWER Pacquiao's by a million buys!!!!!!! Against Marquez, Mayweather's #s crush Pac's by more than half a MILLION BUYS!!!!! This content is protected Interesting...:think You make it sound as if Blood tests is a bad thing... This content is protected This content is protected Why couldn't he agreed the first time around???? WTF does that have to do with purse split???? FTOD is subjective. Hopkins was the MW King, undefeated in 10 years and P4P#1 when he got 1/5 of the purse against DLH... So WTF does that matter??? What matters is WHO DRAWS. Your reaching bro. :rofl Manny was rocked by Solis, Larios, JMM, KO by bum 1, bum 2, Hussein...WTF does getting ROCKED have anything to do with negotiations I can see it now... " Ployd, I deserve pipty pipty because you got rocked pighting Mosley." GTFO of here with that ridiculous comment. Again, all subjective...in other words it CANNOT BE PROVEN. So Pac can be the fighter of the decade, the fighter of the millenium, or the GOAT, butu as long as Mayweather is the bigger draw, he will get the bigger purse...simple. Glad you brought that up, Floyd the P4P king retired, so Ring needed to fill the spot in, so they took the #2 guy and placed him at #1 thanks to Mayweather. But even with this..P4P#1 doesn't mean he deserves do dictate purse splits..its ridiculous, just like *******s are ridiculous. Floyd fights for money now..he's already a 5 division champion, and he has put in a lot of work promoting himself to make the money he's making nowadays...I'm sure Floyd gives a real **** about titles, and subjectibe rankings at this point...He cares about money..wether that is right or wrong, I don't care...what I do care is that if the fight isn't made because Pac will not BUDGE away from his unjustified 50/50, the fight won't be made. Class act eh?? Came up with 100 excuses and bailed out on negotiations the first time around so he wouldn't take random testing only to come back and say its okay :roll: (sounds like he was buying time to me) Signed with both GBP and Top Rank , always has lame excuses for eveything, and never give his opponents full credit...Class act eh?? Dude, I can't believe I wasted 5 minutes replying to you..you didn't make any good arguments....none. :-(
How do you know that??? If anything Floyd's stock went up, while Pac's went down. Think of it like this: Floyd was willing to LET Pac get 50%, but Pac started acting like a kid with all his damn excuses to avoid random testing. Mayweather started with up to the day of te fight. Pac tells Mayweather **** YOU and said NO. Mayweather conceded to 3 days before..Pac tells Mayweather **** YOU and said NO Mayweather conceded to 14 days...Pac tells Mayweather **** YOU and said NO, and bailed out and fought Clottey. Then Pac comes back and says, okay, 14 days....atsch What kind of bull**** is that...He should have agreed the first time.:-( So they start new negotiations, and Mayweather tells Mayweather **** YOU and says 50/50 not an opyion anymore.
When was Manny ever out on his feet above 140 ? since he left the lower weights were he was drained and weaker he has never been rocked. Manny is a bigger sell Globally. Floyd fights in Vegas and there are more Hatton fans and Manny fans and they are not even from this continent. For the amount of punches Manny throws to never be hurt above 140 like Floyd was against Shane when Floyd moves his hands from his face less than any other PPV fighter is signifcant. It makes the case for why Floyd avoided certain fighters and why he would never face Manny. Day by day Floyd is losing fans and making more people sure he is a duck master.
Yeah but at the same time if you had a shrewd business mind, and you had clear conclusive evidence that you created more money than your opponent, wouldnt you push for the bigger share? Its not as simple as just saying lets just do 50/50. Sure i probably would myself, but lets be honest, i dont have a sharp business brain like Floyd, which is why i am sitting in a shoe box of a room posting on internet forums, and why he is sitting a massive on a stack of cash. I can see both sides of the argument, so i can kind of justify both corners acting how they have. You just need to look at it from both sides!
Well, no one is going to kiss you're dumb black ass due to your tiny brain. A welfare check collecting idiot who has an opinion. Yeah, I said it. Wake up Dummy, and shut your trap. I understand you're trying to defend your idol, but damn you're a ****ing idiot. Additionally, stop the nonsense about business crap because you have no idea how the boxing business really works. Business acumen my ass, STFU!