Serious question about Manny Pacquiao....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IsaL, Jun 30, 2010.


  1. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    They both did agree to 50/50 prior to the demands of olympic style testing... and how can you sit back and compare Mosley vs Floyd against Manny vs Clottey of which Clotteys biggest acheivement in the sport was lossing to Cotto and Margarito while putting up a good fight.... apples to oranges kid.
    how about compairing those Mosley numbers to Manny vs Hatton? someone who did have a following the way mosley did? ahhh becuase if you do that, your arguement suddenly doesnt hold much water....
     
  2. YENOOR

    YENOOR Guest

    I just told you why floyd agreed back then, because he was actually in a weaker position to demand more. Now he is a stronger position and can demand much more.
     
  3. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm willing to bet my house that for his accolades within this sport, Manny is more world wide renowned than Mayweather.
     
  4. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    for F***sake, when are these sad cases goiung to realise that manny is not a prophet, he is a norjal guy who seeks the most money in every oppurtunity and not the ****ing angel you ****s think he is.

    now **** off and dont try and justify that he can get 50/50 and it would be fair, because that shows you got no common sense and no business acumen.

    now kiss my black ass
     
  5. artofwar

    artofwar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yes he is. Sponsored by nike, fighter of the decade,first ever congressman boxer, the most exciting fighter since tyson.

    I think he is definitely the face of boxing right now.
     
  6. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Very stupid arguement and I will tell you why, When Manny fought Oscar, Oscar was still a top draw especially comming off of a close fight with Mayweather.
    When Floyd fought Shane, Floyd was the bigger draw... of course Oscar will demand more money to fight Pac, and you already know Floyd was going to get the higher share with Shane...
    it makes no sense to argue this point because this point is bull**** its a herring arguement and I will take no part in the consistant ******ation your types tend to present.
     
  7. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    How is he in a stronger position when Manny has knocked out two common opponents, and also knocked out the guy who beat mosley of which Floyd just fought?
    Sorry though Floyd did fight beat and dominate shane.... Manny dominated and stopped the man who beat Mosley......
     
  8. YENOOR

    YENOOR Guest

    What does knocking out have to do with PPV sales?

    When did he knock out Oscar?

    Okay if you gonna play that game. Then mayweather dominated the man who not only drew against pac but arguably beat him in the 2nd fight. LOL
     
  9. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    dude i know your not a silly guy, obviously they will make the mos fighting each other and presumably give each other their biggest paydays.

    but tell me the tangibles and intangibles of the fight, because based on these circumstances the numbers speak for themselves. thyat is why mayweather knows he is in the drivers seat.
     
  10. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course he's in a stronger position NOW than he was. But that stronger position that he's holding is on level with PAC's position when PAC GAVE Floyd 50/50 in the 1st round of negotiations.

    When someone who holds the upper hand in negotiations and GIVES throws the other party a bone.....it indicates that they want things to work out.

    When someone who holds the upper hand in negotiations and tries to push for more and more and more, creating obstacles and hold ups it only indicates that they DON'T really want things to happen.

    We see it all the time in boxing....people who don't want to fight...out price themselves...come up with unreasonable demands...ect. But i have to admit its a FIRST seeing anther man back out of a fight by coming up with "rumors" that are meant to discredit their potential opponent. That to me is a ***** move and wouldn't have ever expected that from Floy.
     
  11. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    YENOOR,

    It's obvious you're a newbie around here.

    In ESB logic, and unlike the real world, there is no expiration date on a point that Pac has negotiated, even when he is negotiating against.....nobody (see 14 day testing acceptance 5 months after the offer was pulled from the table). Nor is Pac's leverage affected by real world changes in circumstances.

    Hang around though. These logical gymnastics by Pac fans are almost as entertaining as his fights.
     
  12. Orbete

    Orbete Active Member Full Member

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    It may sound weird, but: if this fight doesen't happen because of the money then it really deserves not to happen. I'm not rooting for some ***gots that, as if nothing else matters, want $45 million instead of $40 million.
     
  13. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    PPV sales does not mean **** in the sport itself its about whos the man to beat, and right now Manny Pacquiao is the man to beat....
     
  14. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Ali can do a 50/50 vs Foreman then surely Mayweather can do the same. Mayweather's not THAT much bigger than Pac. Personally if I had to drop money on either one I drop it on Pac and I do so on Mayweather because I like the guys he's fighting not because I like him so much. It's the case with most I imagine. People are seriously belittling how much people wanted to see DLH, Hatton, and Mosley. Here is the thing. Even if you were to look at this on the business end Mayweather's audience can only grow from this fight. Pricing himself out against his equal in terms of elite fighter and in terms of popularity would work against a less popular fighter but not against Pacquaio.
     
  15. Don Q

    Don Q Active Member Full Member

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    Typical Pacfag response. You are so blinded by nuthugging Pac that you can't even state a reply stating your point and backing up your nuthugging ways wih facts. GTFO here.