Serious question about the Molina stoppage.

atsch

 

I guess Floyd has a loss then, too. Because Roger Mayweather jumped into the ring during Mayweather/Judah.

 

Kirkland is black, that's all that matters to Reppin'. I mean, why the **** wouldn't you be mad about that decision if you're a boxing fan? Regardless of who you were cheering for?

 

Copying my post from another thread:

"Entering the ring during a count or the bout and interfering will subject the corner’s boxer to a loss by DISQUALIFICATION."

Do you think the criteria were met? Note it asks for interference in addition to entering the ring. You could make an argument for it, but it'd be lawyerly, and contrary to what everyone saw.

Here's 2 other rules that muddle it some more:

"The bell to end the round should not be sounded by the Timekeeper during a count. In the event that a knockdown occurs at the end of the round and the bell rings, the Referee will disregard the sounding of the bell and continue his mandatory count. The Timekeeper is to ring the bell after the count and the Referee’s evaluation."

"During the round, seconds:
b) Must not mount the stairs or apron or enter the ring until the bell indicates the end of a round."


The only clear cut thing here is that the timekeeper was in the wrong. You'd think that'd afford Molina's corner some leniency, since interference is a stretch.

 

Mayweather absolutely deserved to be disqualified. But the referee blowing that call does not mean the referee should blow the call last night.


Keith

 

It was up to the ref; I would have taken a point and would not have dq'd anyone. It is clear that they are trying to protect Kirkland in this case.

 

Yeah, the ref has sole discretion, which he exercised, before GBP threw a ****-fit and got him to come over to the officials, who then exercised collective discretion through him by dictating a DQ and saving their fighter from another disappointing loss.

This has no chance in hell of being overturned and ruled a no contest, by the way. Sorry to all hoping for that outcome :/ There will be no rematch.

 

You can't even compare the two. One was the act of inciting a riot. The other went to walk into the rind after his fighter had beaten the count and the bell had rung, and immediately got out of the ring again.

 

I didn't compare the two, you did.


I answered your question.


If your corner enters the ring, you get dq'd. End of story. Hell if you get on the apron its a DQ.


It happened, there is no denying it happened, and now for some reason people are trying to nullify the rule so a guy they liked could continue.

Doesn't work that way.

take your frustration out on the corner man. Did you notice ONLY ONE guy entered the ring.

The other knew better.


Keith

 

And he only got out of the ring when he was physically escorted out by the ref. That is interference to top it off.

Keith

 

He deserved that loss it was horrible tactitcs and NOTHING like ward or hopkinds. They do it with finesse.

 

Bell sounded. That signals the end of the round. It was justifiable for cornerman to enter the ring.

Minor technicality then that the man was on his way in. He left when instructed to do so. All very understandable and the ref SAW IT THIS WAY TOO.

Then GBP team began to yell at the ref and he subsequently made his bogus decision.


I'm not a fan of either dude, and as I' stated earlier, neither one impressed very much, and neither man is an A level fighter.


That said, both the eref and judge Gayle ****ed up.

 

I agree, it was definitely Golden Boy that got his ear and forced his hand. Pretty Obvious, actually. Keith fails to see the ridiculousness of the ruling in this particular instance, I guess?

 

Yeah, your case rests on this technicality, the ref interrupted his count for about 2 seconds to escort the second out. It works better if you haven't seen the fight, the interference was incidental (bell having round just as Molina was going down), and not material (Molina already steady on his feet). Certainly the ref didn't see it as clear cut anything, else why continue the count. Him seemingly overriding his call after a ringside consultation already brings up questions, whether of competence or fairness. So you shouldn't be surprised people are getting worked up over it.

 

The bigger travesty is that Gale Van Hoye was allowed to judge a professional fight, a championship fight at that. Molinas camp ****ed up twice, once getting in the ring, but also they should have protested having that judge beforee the fight. Molina has been robbed a lot in his career, you would think they would take more preventative measures.