Serious question.. are there some roids only detectable through blood?

IOC>NSAC > FJM Sr.

Thought I'd finish your statment for you. I'll also add in that everyone knows plenty of people get away with this **** even when fully tested. So honestly Floyd can keep coming back with more and more testing and if Pac's people are good enough they won't get caught anyways.

 

When was the last time ANY sanctioning body with testing authority updated their policies relative to the newest scientific techniques?
One of the reasons the IOC uses blood samples is that they store these samples for year-to-year blood comparisons. If the IOC standards are to be applied, FJM Sr. should have been clamoring for Pacquiao blood years ago...

 

Pwned get some.

 

Here is an excerpt from the Australian Academy of Science :

For Human Growth Hormone:

"After hGH has been secreted by the pituitary gland or injected by a drug-user it breaks down quite quickly into other products. Scientists in Australia and elsewhere have monitored changes in the bodies of athletes following the administration of hGH and have detected molecular ‘markers’ – usually

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or blood – that could be used as indirect evidence of doping."

For Erythropoeitin :

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Like hGH, EPO levels in the blood do not remain elevated for long, making detection difficult. The standard test doesn’t measure EPO levels; rather, it measures the concentration of red blood cells in a blood sample. But because this test is only an indicator of possible EPO abuse, more reliable tests are needed. One method for detecting EPO currently being investigated involves a protein called transferrin, which could be an indirect marker of EPO use. Scientists are also looking at techniques to distinguish molecular differences between the EPO produced by the body and that manufactured in the laboratory. A method developed by Australian scientists uses blood profiles to detect athletes with a disproportionate number of young and maturing red blood cells (Box 1).

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For Steroids :

Because it is synthetic, and has to undergo first pass metabolism, with secondary by-products, it is basically detectable by urine test. - mine

Here is the AAS statement :

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, using mass spectrometry. However, since they occur naturally and their levels in the body fluctuate daily and can vary from person to person, setting a threshold above which an athlete is deemed to be ‘using’ anabolic steroids remains a subject of debate"

Even the governing bodies do not agree on the specific testing procedures. The WADA or World Antidoping Agency does the Olympic doping test, and there was a controversy regarding sample handling with possible contamination as well as there was an incident where because of strict guidelines, suspicious results were declared negative, that was involving EPO.

So who would adminster the doping test in this case, with no fear of sample tampering???? Besides, all the doping drugs mentioned can be detected using urine, so why the heck is there a need for an invasive procedure like needles, which can cause hematoma or bruising on a very important joint area for boxers, the elbow.

Who knows if the Mayweathers would pay the blood collector to dig the needle as much as possible during the collection.

 

:rofl:rofl

 

The WADA stores not only blood but urine specimen as well. They freeze those specimens until a newer testing procedures come around, then test those.

However, there are issues of the security of those specimens against tampering, especially as these doping agencies are not exactly Fort Knox when it comes to security.

 

Hopefully, if they're run anything like the labs I've been in, the samples are labelled by number/code, & not something blatant like "Manny Pacquiao's Urine/Blood".

 

USADA is a lil better than the French Anti Doping Agency as far as mishandled specimens. Samples are supposed to be numerically coded, but stuff still happens and samples get mishandled/tainted. However the French are pretty serious as they use hair follicle testing as well.

 

The true answer is no !!!! Serious answer.

 

Steroids are detectable through urine. HGH and blood doping aren't though. Of course, HGH really wouldn't help a boxer a whole lot. Blood doping would, but I find it hard to imagine that he'd be able to do that with the 24/7 cameras on him all the time.

As already mentioned though, the main advantage to blood testing is the ability to retest it over the long term without the sample degrading, and that's irrelevant here.

 

I agree but they could test new urine every day and the quality of the tests would be the same anyways..

 

In 2000 a test developed by scientists at the French national anti-doping laboratory (LNDD) and endorsed by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) was introduced to detect pharmaceutical EPO by distinguishing it from the nearly-identical natural hormone normally present in an athlete’s urine.

 

hGH only shows up in blood test as elevated hormone levels. Its not a drug it is an artifical hormone. As such though a unrine test nothing shows because it mimics natural hormones. What it does it promotes faster cell generation. Which allows you to build yourself up fast, allow for better stamina. Anyone saying that its ineffective without using another steroid is mistaken.

The reason for the testing is that if you use hGH it will have show high levels for a short period of time, at which point the levels go back to normal and is undetectable at that point. By the Pac camp wanting the testing done at the start of the press tour before camp and after the fight is because it would allow them(If Pac was actaully using) to use it then stop in time for the testing. If he doesnt know when the tests are taking place then he cant use them at all. Its not that difficult to understand for those that arent blind.

 

Actually that is based on old test. New test are out and can detect it through urine. The USADA are just behind the time in their testing. They can't just approve new test while dopers are able to use new stuff. If you go by what the USADA says then yes the test they use can not detect it but their are urine test that can.

 

The primary way HGH assists an athlete’s appearance is by reducing the amount of subcutaneous (meaning underneath the skin) fat an athlete has.[4] One study found that taking HGH led to a significant increase in lean body mass, but the change was primarily for the short term.[2] Although muscle is a primary component of lean body mass, in the instance of HGH, the spike is not muscular. The increase in lean body mass is attributed to a simultaneous decrease in fat related tissue[3] higher fluid retention, and an increase of connective tissue[5] as opposed to muscle hypertrophy.[2] No increase in muscle strength was observed in laboratory testing.[3] This makes an athlete’s muscles more visible but does not lead to an increase of the strength-producing contractile tissue and therefore HGH does not enhance muscular strength capabilities.[5] As concluded by experiments performed at Washington University in St. Louis, HGH can increase the size of muscles, but not muscle strength.[5] So while HGH can modify an athlete’s appearance, it will not boost his athletic capabilities.[2]
[edit] Muscle mass

Researchers are still debating whether the more noticeable muscles are larger in size as well. It should be clarified, though, that muscle mass is not the same as muscle strength.[5] Some say that human growth hormone will build muscle mass through raised insulin-like growth factors levels leading to heightened protein synthesis without any side effects[6] while other researchers argue that there have been no such findings on young healthy adults.[4] The second argument is more supported by research discoveries that HGH affects muscle protein synthesis no differently than a placebo does.[1]
[edit] Injury Resistance

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[4] These effects “may promote resistance to injury or faster repair [but] would make the muscle no more capable of force generation”.[4] HGH can make an athlete better equipped to avoid or recover from a sports injury.[5]