Serious question- did anyone score the fight on Sat for the guy they wasn't rooting for...

One more thing.

There was a lot of Ward fanatics all over Youtube post fight calling Kovalev a racist and admitting their hatred for Kovalev in videos.

Yet they flatout admitt Ward lost the fight and even went as far to say it was a robbery .

Check out my man daboss000. I've been following him for a minute .

 

I picked Ward to win a decision and- while I have heard plenty about the fight here and online- I have only personally seen 3 Rounds thus far. I have Kovalev ahead by 4 points after 3. Clearly. Thus far I have not seen Ward's shots have any affect upon Kovalev. Looking forward to seeing the rest of it.

BTW- I really do believe the folks who are standing by their own efforts at fairness in judging here. I constantly think "there's someone who thinks as I do. They will do anything necessary to be fair- and they do not want a bad decision."

I will stand by how I score the fight- whether I was right in choosing Ward before the fight- or not.

Great if my final opinion disagrees- or agrees- with respected posters here. Whatever it is, it certainly will. It should be good for the sport if some of us love the game and the participants for really different reasons.

 

I thought Ward would win but wanted Kovalev to.

I scored the fight for Ward.

 

I was rooting for the best man to win. When the fight ended I thought a draw would be ideal. I have no issues with anyone thinking Ward won, and have no issues with anyone who feels Kovalev won.

Personally I felt Ward edged it, but I will give it a second look and properly score.

 

It's impossible to remove all bias from any judging.

Furthermore, the judges seeing it live, see it once, no replay from one position. After they score a round they can't go back and change it/modify or anything of that nature. Far different from us.

 

Like i said its basic logic with limited rules where EFFECTIVE aggression over rides all styles as long as the aggressive figher lands ,this is in the RULES of boxing agree or not. Seasoned fans ,myself included give equal rnds to the champion this fight does not disqualify itself from that ,why should it?

 

But pro judges are discouraged from awarding equal rounds and that sets a precedent for how others become inclined to score fights. If a round is equal, why should it necessarily go to the champion, why shouldn't it be scored equal? Maybe you should check out my latest thread.

 

Boxing is judged on 4 criteria ...this is the FIRST .

"The key to the first category is the word "effective." One may be going forward, trying to get at ones opponent, forcing them back, but not throwing punches, or missing badly. In order to be "effective" one must have success landing consistently while moving forward. It should be noted that the opponent, who is "out-boxing" or keeping the fight at a distance, can be the "effective aggressor" by initiating the punching exchanges. " M.Coxx

If you dont give rnds that are near impossible to call and dont give the Champion them,well that is ass backwards then. You can give equal rnds but as steel said the refs are watching live and giving actual even rnds would require replay .

 

Or you could just score them as drawn rounds. I don't give the champ any benefit; this seems to be a sort of unwritten rule that half follow and half don't. Ultimately, people go one way or another depending on what they like in rounds where an equal amount of effective leather was landed on the other. So naturally, we get hugely varying scorecards in such a fight as the recent Kovalev-Ward fight. People might see it as simple according to what they like.

If it's written in the rules/guidelines that the champ must be given the benefit of the doubt, then show me and I will adapt my judging accordingly. (You seem to have all the rules etc. at your fingertips so it's easier for me to ask you.)

 

As stated judges watch the fight live to justify equal rnds would take multiple looks of replay ,thats why . If it was easy you would see them more ,and personally i would think i can determine a winner in each rnd bc really theres no such thing as a even rnd ....even if its a half a punch . I already covered everything that is needed with the 1st and most important criteria which would eliminate all confusion bc that is who won this fight weather you see a 7 rnd win or a 1 rnd win,without the knock down added.

 

A lot of folks have Ward winning, though (about 25% or so, I think). A bigger percentage than that seem to believe that it in fact wasn't a robbery, and so even if they scored the fight for Kovalev can concede that Ward was not exactly undeserving of the win. I'm sure a lot of those people know how fights are judged and have judged many fights from the comfort of their own homes, and some very respected forum members are probably among those who feel that Ward won - Rumsfeld, for example.

You seem to be rubbishing their outlook and saying "Kovalev won, whether it was by 7 rounds or just 1. How did they get something so simple so wrong?

 

25 % is hardly alot and hardly anyone of those ,maybe a small 5% or so even know what boxing criterias are . They wouldn't want to know either bc than it shows why Kovalev won. If you take anything that looks simple and look at it over and over that simple something turns into something not so simple ......in other words no one can possibly give a punch for punch account based on one viewing and anyone claims they can is a liar because when you pay attention more and turn off all sound you get a different fight almost always. lol

Ive seen the fight 6 times now ,even gave Ward anoth3er round but still cant see how he won without a K.O.

 

Technically yes. I was rooting for Kovalev and had it a draw round wise at 6 to 6 but still Kovalev winning becuase of the knock down point

 

That only proves the point about all the noise surrounding the effective landed leather being likely to yield wildly varying judgment in close rounds, given that on our live viewing we have one chance to make a judgment. People won't be able to see the 1/2 a punch difference in a round that should lead to a round going to X fighter, but see a close round and make a decision based on all the "noise" which comprises the journey to the effective punches, namely the style that a fighter has, for which everyone has a bias for.

I can't really agree that people who didn't score the fight for Kovalev are flat-out wrong. But, each to their own and all that.

 

Picking and rooting for isn't the same thing, I also picked Ward but I was rooting for Kovalev, the latter has more inherent bias.